This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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>> I am thinking about getting a KK bit for riding. >snip >>  And if you
use a KK, which one to you recommend - schooling or
>> training bit?
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I don't know
>what a schooling bit looks like, as I don't have a catalogue in front of me
>which carries the KK schooling bit.  

I just got a KK schooling bit from Libertyville to try on my big Fjord
Gelding, Bjorken.  It has a solid mouth shaped to fit, like the KK curb
sort of, and egg butt rings. 
Bjorken goes pretty well in the mullen mouth Glory butterfly bit (I ride
mostly on the snaffle setting), but opens his mouth in an ordinary two
piece snaffle when I'm trying to ride on contact doing dressage stuff, and
sometimes gets his tongue over the bar of the Glory bit when I use that on
firm contact, so I have concluded that he has a thick tongue and low pallet
also. My Instructor tends to poo poo this, and just cranks the flash
tighter and put the bit higher in his mouth.
  As much as I respect her knowledge and experience, I still think he is
opening his mouth because he is getting poked in the pallet and the Glory
mouthpiece, as curved as it is, still does not allow enough room for his
tongue. When I tried the KK schooling bit on he was instantly comfortable
and could even easily chew a carrot, his tongue had freedom.  Now to see if
he just runs through it, or responds better to it than the others.
  Bjorken has fleshy lips and loose ring bits tend to pinch, so I'd ideally
like the 14mm KK training bit in an eggbutt, but I have never seen one.
The french mouth bits usually have a center piece that's too long in the 5
1/2 inch, (they make up the size by making the center peice longer!)
So here I go, yet another bit to try. BTW  Somewhere I have a 23 mm 5 1/2 "
KK bit that I will sell (if I can find it)  It's too fat.  I also have a
pair of 5 1/2" Buxton driving bits with the bar on the bottom of the shanks
for pair work, as well as a couple of 5 1/2" liverpool bits.  All are
Stainless steel and never used.  WILL SELL REASONABLE.  I mostly use the
Glory Blutterfly driving bits for riding and driving, even my dressage lesson.

Jean in sunny and warm Fairbanks, Alaska.  Fjord hair EVERYWHERE!
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Jean Ernest
Fairbanks, Alaska
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