This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Loved the stuff about biting from Bryan Neubert...etc.
The horse is definitely thinking about the treat all right. But, with the Bryan Neubert system, he is thinking about *avoiding+ whatever little hassles you are delivering when he doesn't pay attention (a shake of a rope, a directive to move his feet that puts him off balance, pressure on his nose, etc). In neither system is the horse really thinking...".now what can I do to make Beth happy today." (Bryan Neubert is great, by the way...I highly recommend his clinics and methods...this is not to say that his training methods are not highly successful and useful.) It is also true that you will get some behaviors you have not bargained for. Rom, right now thinks picking up feet means pawing (this is one of the known early problems with clicker training for picking up feet....they get way too enthusiastic!...whereas, with pressure methods [tapping on the cannon bone or squeezing near the tendon] they do only what they have to do to relieve the pressure. I have not tried it, but I do believe that clicker training would be somewhat better for places where you need animation and enthusiasm...say trying to make a lazy horse (read calm Fjord who cannot be scared into going forward) piaffe. > >I'm ruminating about what Gail Russel said about the clicker training >(talk about having to pay attention to your horseand have impeccable >timing) and your horse's attention. I've seen video of what Gail is >talking about, but wonder if the horse's attention is really on you, or >is he just thinking of how to get that next goodie? And are you >rewarding only that single behavior, or are you rewarding the poor >behavior that leads up to you asking for the "right" behavior? Or can >horses reason for that many steps? I'm not pooh poohing clicker >training, just thinking, thinking.............. > >Of course, dealing with an already spoiled horse is another problem, and >can be a dangerous situation to work with. If you don't have experience >in these matters, you should seek the assistance of someone who has, who >can deal with it effectively (and humanely).....and can show you how to >handle the horse to keep the problem from coming back. > >My two cents worth. > >Beth > >-- >Beth Beymer & Sandy North >Starfire Farm, Berthoud CO >http://www.starfirefarm.com > > > Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
