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I have to agree with Dave, here.  The subject of horses biting always
comes up at colt starting and horsemanship clinics with Buck Brannaman
and Ray Hunt and Bryan Neubert (I mention these people because they are
who I've worked with, I'm sure it comes up at a lot of NH style
clinics.)  What they say is that if the horse bites, you have two
choices:  Avoid it, or say "ouch" and rub it (the bite.)  Meaning, if
you've already been bitten, it's too late, and it's your fault for
letting the horse bite you in the first place.  It's also your fault (or
someone else's) for letting the horse get that poor in its behavior and
disrespectful to you, to begin with.  It's also your fault for not
paying close enough attention to your horse to not know that he was
thinking of biting you.

Ideally, you would have your horse attentive enough to you that the
horse would never think of biting anything;  you, or a lead rope, or
your tack, or another horse.  This means that you have to be paying
close attention to your horse, and you would direct him away from
biting, getting his attention on doing something else (whether that
might be clicker training, or moving his feet) before he ever got
there.  Paying attention to your horse can be a learned skill, but it
takes concentration on your part.  You have to be willing to keep your
attention on your horse while you are doing whatever chore/task/action
you might be involved in (like grooming your horse or talking to someone
else while you're holding your horse.)  It takes practice and
committment on your part, and an ability to learn to recognize when your
horse's attention is not on you.

I'm ruminating about what Gail Russel said about the clicker training
(talk about having to pay attention to your horseand have impeccable
timing) and your horse's attention.  I've seen video of what Gail is
talking about, but wonder if the horse's attention is really on you, or
is he just thinking of how to get that next goodie?  And are you
rewarding only that single behavior, or are you rewarding the poor
behavior that leads up to you asking for the "right" behavior?  Or can
horses reason for that many steps?  I'm not pooh poohing clicker
training, just thinking, thinking..............

Of course, dealing with an already spoiled horse is another problem, and
can be a dangerous situation to work with.  If you don't have experience
in these matters, you should seek the assistance of someone who has, who
can deal with it effectively (and humanely).....and can show you how to
handle the horse to keep the problem from coming back.

My two cents worth.

Beth

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Beth Beymer & Sandy North
Starfire Farm, Berthoud CO
http://www.starfirefarm.com



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