This message is from: Arthur and Carol Rivoire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia -
>Carol, >I guess I would have to ask why this information >was not requested by you when you originally >imported the horse ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Yes, I could request this information when importing horses, and get it without problems. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >If you accepted the pedigree as is when you >bought the horse - why now the need to update it? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Because a completed pedigree certificate is better than one with holes in it, and when I bought the horse, she wasn't registered by NFHR, just by the Dutch, so I had no way of knowing if the NFHR had all her antecedents in its data base, or not. PLEASE UNDERSTAND that all this information is on record in Holland, and (I assume Norway). It's only a question of somebody asking for it. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > If it's for the reason of saleability I would >think it's your responsibility to request the >information. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please understand that I used this case as an example only. It's important that all U.S. Fjordhorses have as complete pedigrees as can be obtained. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If it's for the reason to have >complete pedigrees, I would think that the NFHR >would only be responsible for what it requires of >any horse registered with NFHR. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ That's right. The NFHR is only responsible for what it requres of any horse . . . That's the present policy. And that's my point. It should be part of the Registrar's job to complete pedigrees to five generations. Why have a 5 generation registration certificate and not try to complete it? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ (If you want to >work to change that policy - that's another story ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ That's what I'm doing by asking you what you think, and by asking Mike and the Board to change the policy. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Preserving the integrity of pedigree information is vital, which is why I think the NFHR Registrar should be the one to request and receive the information. Not individuals - Much less chance of error. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ANOTHER PROBLEM - When an owner sends in an application to register, or transfer from another registry, he can't know until he receives his NFHR certificate whether it's going to be a complete 5 generation pedigree, or whether there'll be holes in it. -- If it's not, he then has to track down the missing information, return the original certificate (with another fee), and wait for a new certificate to be made. Problem is, this isn't an easy task for a lot of owners as many would have no idea where to get this information. The NFHR Registrar knows how to do it. Isn't there a better way? Should owners contact Mike before sending in registration applications or transfers to find out if five generations are in the computer? That would entail much more work for Mike because he'd have to look up every applicant, rather than just the ones that come up incomplete when he's doing the certificates. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This is pretty simple. 4th and 5th generations Fjordhorses are in the European Studbook computers. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The NFHR should write the European registries and formally request their cooperation in obtaining prompt pedigree information on horses in their data banks. When you finally get the registration certificate for your new Fjord, wouldn't you rather have it completely filled in, rather than see a lot of blank spaces? Regards, Carol Rivoire Carol and Arthur Rivoire Beaver Dam Farm Fjords II R.R. 7 Pomquet Antigonish County Nova Scotia B2G 2L4 902 386 2304 http://www.beaverdamfarm.com