fjordhorse-digest Sunday, December 9 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 321
In this issue: Re: pedigrees Re: Sharon WI Parade Tails... Re: Tails... Re: Tails... Re: Fencing Re: sinus problems Re: GoGates? Re: good Fjord PR question Fjord Digest and Pedugree Information Libby Show Re: Fjord Digest and Pedugree Information Denny Emerson's article re. breeding FJORD CHAT See the end of the digest for information on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 06:23:15 -0800 (PST) From: Nancy Newport <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: pedigrees This message is from: Nancy Newport <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Carol, I guess I would have to ask why this information was not requested by you when you originally imported the horse? If you accepted the pedigree as is when you bought the horse - why now the need to update it? If it's for the reason of saleability I would think it's your responsibility to request the information. If it's for the reason to have complete pedigrees, I would think that the NFHR would only be responsible for what it requires of any horse registered with NFHR. (If you want to work to change that policy - that's another matter) I believe that the NFHR would be going the extra mile to add the information you might recover from the Dutch registry to your existing registration papers. As for the forms being in 5 generations - why not, if the information is provided by the owner or on the data base may as well provide a place to put it. JMHO, Nancy Newport Gainesville, Florida Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 10:21:34 -0600 From: "Hope Carlson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Sharon WI Parade This message is from: "Hope Carlson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dear fellow fjord lovers, went to the carriage parade in Sharon, WI last night. A beautiful display, all the carriages lit up and decorated. Jon promises "for sure" we will be in it next year. Still waiting on our team harness. All newbies to driving like me, just go to Camptown Harness, don't try to mess around. I had no idea when I started that Fjords, at least my Fjords, would take a combination of horse, cob and draft parts in their harness. This is impossible to buy "off the rack". Avoid wasted time and money. Anyway, no fjords in the parade this year, breedwise there was standardbred, percheron, welsh, shetland, belgian and morgan. A pleasure to see them all. If the Sharon city webpage puts up photos, I will list the address. Hope N IL ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 12:07:54 -0500 From: "Bill/Liz/Katy/Charlie/Arne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Tails... This message is from: "Bill/Liz/Katy/Charlie/Arne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi all- Just got in from a ride on Jon, my Fjord. We're finally having winter-like weather...had to wear gloves and fleece breeches! I noticed how long his tail is - it nearly touches the ground! What should I do? Cut it? It has gotten much longer since we bought him, and I can't remember if I've cut it before. I was thinking that since we probably won't be going to any Fjord activities until summer, it would be okay to cut it and then let it grow out again. Is there any other decision that might be better? Otherwise, I'm just going to take a few inches off. Thanks from PA, where December temperatures have reached the 70s! Katy Andersen and her Furry Fjord Jon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2001 08:29:54 -0900 From: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Tails... This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I usually cut about 5-6 inches off my fjords' tails this time of year...should do it now, but it is -35 F out there...one of my mares, Adel, has a thick long tail that is almost touching the ground now, and the last few inches are getting ice balls from her pee...gets heavier all the time so she gets it out of the way less and less. Last year I cut about 6 inches or more off and by early summer it was as long as ever! Jean in COLD Fairbanks, Alaska, -35F with no relief in sight ;( "Gloves and fleece Breeches? How about Down parka, insulated overpants and "bunny boots"! and I'm not even riding! (who can ride in all that clothing, anyway!) > >Hi all- > Just got in from a ride on Jon, my Fjord. We're finally having >winter-like weather...had to wear gloves and fleece breeches! I noticed how >long his tail is - it nearly touches the ground! What should I do? Cut it? ************************************************************ Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 14:03:42 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Tails... This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 12/8/01 9:40:31 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Jean in COLD Fairbanks, Alaska, -35F with no relief in sight ;( > "Gloves and fleece Breeches? How about Down parka, insulated overpants and > "bunny boots"! and I'm not even riding! (who can ride in all that clothing, > Wow! I cannot even imagine! BTW, I haven't heard any moose stories from you recently. Are they staying away from your property these days? Or are they just becoming so much of an everyday thing for you these days that it seems "normal" and not worth writing about? Pamela ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 18:42:11 -0800 From: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Fencing This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks Pat will look forward to the pamphlet. Appreciate your help. Jean Jean Walters Gayle [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ] http://users.techline.com/jgayle Send $20 Three Horses Press PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 18:35:59 -0800 From: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: sinus problems This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Gail do not remember if I answered you or not about your ideas re the sinus problem.. I have those antique medicine bits with the funnel but I also wondered if he might get bit shy. Well, come to think of it he is not ridden anymore so would not make any difference. When I was dosing him with bute for two months he got so he would try and hide if he heard me lifting the halter from its hook. He is too sensitive re taste. Anything slightly off and he is shy of it. Never cared for sweets. Something will be bound to work soon. Jean Jean Walters Gayle [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ] http://users.techline.com/jgayle Send $20 Three Horses Press PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 14:25:35 -0800 From: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: GoGates? This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gail I have devised a way of coming back through my swinging metal gate but not going out!!!!! I do not chain it when I leave and so when I come up the drive (if the puppy has not come to the gate to greet me) I simply hit it with my bumper at a set speed and it flys open. So far the gate post has held. Sometimes my timing is off as to how hard I hit it and I do have to get out and open it "right". I then close it when I go to the field to feed the horses. I had one some years ago from Farnum that had rubber tips on the poles and hanging wrapped wires that shocked the heck out of my collie. Course it required elec. off the fence lines. You could just drive thru both directions. It never kept the ducks and chickens at home tho. Jean Walters Gayle [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ] http://users.techline.com/jgayle Send $20 Three Horses Press PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 18:45:09 -0800 From: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: good Fjord PR This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tammy that is a great article and well worth reading. Jean Jean Walters Gayle [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ] http://users.techline.com/jgayle Send $20 Three Horses Press PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 18:47:06 -0800 From: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: question This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Anke, how do you say bit (horse's mouthpiece) in German? Jean Jean Walters Gayle [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ] http://users.techline.com/jgayle Send $20 Three Horses Press PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 19:17:10 -0800 From: "Ursula Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Fjord Digest and Pedugree Information This message is from: "Ursula Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dear List From Brian Jensen; There have been many comments lately about the Digest and its mandate etc. I sincerely thank Steve for his time and patience as a volunteer to take care of this work. As well I wish to thank all the volunteers on NFHR Committees; the NFHR Executive, and the working employees of the NFHR. I believe they give more than they are paid on a continual basis. The NFHR and CFHA would not be alive and continuing without these folks who give of themselves in such a generous manner.My picture of the North American future for the Fjord is one of improved Conformation of the breed, and continued improvement of the Performance disciplines in the NFHR Evaluation Program. This means that the Fjord is becoming a better Fjord overall, and that is good for all of us. It also means that the owner-handlers are improving as well in their respective disciplines of Riding-Driving-Draft. Back to the Digest and a Christmas wish I have.I wish that the list contributors would stick to the general topics of the Norwegian Fjord horse and everything about it!!!!! I have read articles about Lamas,Dogs, Cats, Holidays, and sometimes notes from people who talk about absolutely nothing related to the Fjord. I thank Carol for her question about Pedigrees. Now we can discuss. I disagree that the NFHR should be responsible for pedigree search beyond their standard. Mike has his hands full doing Real Work and does not need to be playing Pinkerton on behalf of owners. I found the info from Dennis most honest and fair. If an owner wants to provide this info for the Registrar it will be done!!! I understand that Dennis Johnson will be stepping down as NFHR Pres. in the new year. My personal thanks to Dennis for his quiet manner and firm steady hand during his tenure. Many things have been accomplished by Dennis and his Exec. and the future for all Fjord owners in North America is better because of it--------Brian Jensen Ursula & Brian Jensen Trinity Fjords Box 1032 Lumby BC Canada V0E-2G0 http://okjunc.junction.net/~ujensen/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (250) 547-6303 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 00:11:47 -0800 From: "Knutsen Fjord Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Libby Show This message is from: "Knutsen Fjord Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi all - Just a reminder that the Libby Show will be held on the weekend of Sept 13 - 15, 2002. This is when the town of Libby has scheduled their Nordicfest celebration. The Show Comm. invites ideas for new, exciting classes - you may submit them to me privately. Also, we need comments/committments for one particular class, Unique Hitch. This can be a crowd-pleaser, and is fun for participants, but has had very few entries in the past few years, so we plan to leave it out unless we get enough commitments from participants to have a decent - sized class. Listen up, out there! Let us hear from you. We had a good Show Comm meeting today in Ritzville, [yes, beautiful downtown Ritzville] - your show is in good hands. So let's hear what you want! Otherwise, you'll only get what we want. One thing for sure, the Stick Horse Class will have an "Adult" division this year; we have to - we can't keep them out..... There will be no Evaluation in conjunction with the Show, so no one will have to plan to take a week's vacation just to be there. Looking forward to seeing you there - Peg Peg Knutsen - Ellensburg, WA http://www.eburg.com/~kffjord/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 07:31:14 -0500 From: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Fjord Digest and Pedugree Information This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 07:17 PM 12/8/2001 -0800, you wrote: > I understand that Dennis Johnson will be stepping down as NFHR >Pres. in the new year. Dennis is not really stepping down Brian. Dennis has been on the NFHR Board of Directors for 6 years now. That is the max a person can be on the BOD without at least a one year break. He isn't quitting on us or anything like that. > My personal thanks to Dennis for his quiet manner and >firm steady hand during his tenure. Many things have been accomplished by >Dennis and his Exec. and the future for all Fjord owners in North America is >better because of it I couldn't agree with you more Brian. Dennis has been one of the best Presidents the NFHR has had. He is still going to be on some of our committees too so we will be in touch with him frequently even aft the first of the year when his term is up. By the way the new NFHR president for 2002 is Fred Brandt from Stillwater, MN. The new Vice President is Allan Merrill from Dodgeville, WI. Catherine Lassessen will be our Secretary for another year as will Roger Cabic be our Treasurer again. We also have 2 new members on the BOD for the new year. They are Becky Vorpagel from Monmouth, OR & Nancy Roemer from Dover, OH. Mike ======================================================= Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 09:05:59 -0500 From: Vivian Creigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Denny Emerson's article re. breeding This message is from: Vivian Creigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Just read an interesting article by Denny Emerson in the Chronicle of the Horse on-line. No, Denny wasn't writing about Fjords but the subject matter applies to anyone breeding horses. It should open up some discussion on this list if anyone is interested. I have plenty of observations re. Denny's article but will save them unless this article stirs up some conversation. The link is below. http://www.chronofhorse.com/bw_rounds/01/denny_dec7.html Vivian Creigh ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 10:47:17 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FJORD CHAT This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PETSANDVETS.COM *NEW* Calendar of Events & Chats Go to www.petsandvets.com main page and scroll down. Click on Calendar FJORD CHAT SUNDAY NIGHT DECEMBER 9th 9:00 pm to 10:00pm (Eastern Time) CHAT ROOMS http://chat.petsandvets.com MESSAGE BOARDS http://www.petsandvets.com/forums ------------------------------ End of fjordhorse-digest V2001 #321 *********************************** Back issues are available by sending the following message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: get fjordhorse-digest vNN.nMMM where "NN" is the volume number, and "MMM" is the issue number.