fjordhorse-digest Thursday, December 6 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 319
In this issue:
gettin' the cows and wood chewing
Do Fjords enjoy playing with those rubber horse balls?
Re: Do Fjords enjoy playing with those rubber horse balls?
Re: sinus problems
[Fwd: Re: Getting a Fjord from Norway]
Re: Getting a Fjord from Norway
Re: Do Fjords enjoy playing with those rubber horse balls?
Re:where is the snow?!
Re: Do Fjords enjoy playing with those rubber horse balls?
Re: gettin' the cows and wood chewing
Re: Speaking of: Escapes/ "treated wood posts"
Re: Getting a Fjord from Norway
Information on the Stallion Ring
Re: Information on the Stallion Ring
Fjord calendars
Re: Do Fjords enjoy playing with those rubber horse balls?
SECRET SANTA SIGN UP - REPEAT
Re: where is the snow?!
Re: sinus problems
Re: sinus problems
Re: Information on the Stallion Ring
Re: Information on the Stallion Ring
Re: Do Fjords enjoy playing with those rubber horse balls?
(no subject)
Re: Solar
Re: (no subject)
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Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 18:22:20 -0600
From: Bonnie Liermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: gettin' the cows and wood chewing
This message is from: Bonnie Liermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi List:
Wow Karen! I didn't know you got to "wrangle some cows" where you live.
That sounds like such fun. Cold, but fun.
My horses chew everything they can, including the plastic tops for
T-posts. I painted the inside of their shelter with cresote and hung
various toys (which they ignore). Hopefully the cresote will save my
shelter this year. But I have allowed them onto my cement cowyard
because it is so muddy and they have started on my barn and windows, so
out in the mud they go again. I have left nice, slightly rotted wooden
fenceposts out in hopes they will chew them. I believe they are cedar,
but they ignore them. How frustrating. I will put some big branches
out. Does anyone know if maple and linden are alright?
bonnie in Wi
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Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 16:23:21 -0800
From: "D T" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Do Fjords enjoy playing with those rubber horse balls?
This message is from: "D T" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I was wondering if anyone uses those rubber horse balls or hangs plastic
jugs with beans in it from trees for the Fjords to play with. I have heard
that some horses enjoy that type of thing. Any feedback?
Deb
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Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 19:57:38 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Do Fjords enjoy playing with those rubber horse balls?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In a message dated 12/5/01 4:32:40 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< I was wondering if anyone uses those rubber horse balls or hangs plastic
jugs with beans in it from trees for the Fjords to play with. I have heard
that some horses enjoy that type of thing. Any feedback? >>
Hi Deb-
I have to hide the balls and orange cones or the horses will never stop
playing!
One caveat -- they have to be taught how to play with them. I used a simple
clicker exercise. Once they "get it" they continue on their own without
clicker or treats, just enjoying the game.
Brigid M Wasson
San Francisco Bay Area, CA
<A HREF="http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html";>Our </A>
<A HREF="http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html";>Fjords</A>
/ )__~
/L /L
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Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 17:39:33 -0800
From: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: sinus problems
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Thanks Randi I will try it and let you know. When he was scoped the shot
made him sag and his head hung down and over a quart of the stuff came out.
Ugh. Jean
Jean Walters Gayle
[Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter"
Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ]
http://users.techline.com/jgayle
Send $20
Three Horses Press
PO Box 104
Montesano, WA 98563
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Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 20:42:52 -0500
From: Curtis Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Fwd: Re: Getting a Fjord from Norway]
This message is from: Curtis Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I sent this yesterday, but it didn't make it in the digest. I checked
my e-mail settings and the address, so I don't know what went wrong.
Hopefully, it gets there this time.
Curt
> This message is from: "D T" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I have heard that in Norway the Geldings are generally sold for meat or
> something, in other words they are killed. I guess the Norwegians don't
> value Geldings the same as Americans do. Anyway I wanted to know
>
>1) Is that true, about being killed as they have little value?
First of all, the Norwegians value their Fjord Horses as much and
probably more than anyone else. The situation you are referring to is
much more complicated than simply selling the geldings for meat.
The situation sometimes happens at the end of the annual stallion
evaluations.
Let me clarify another misconception. The Norwegian government rules do
not say that a stallion without his license must be gelded or sold as
meat. The rules only say that the stallion's future offspring can not
be registered. When a stallion does not receive a license for breeding,
the owner has some hard decisions to make. In most cases, the owner has
very little room and feed to keep a non-breeding horse. Also, the owner
has probably received some subsistence allowances from the government to
raise the stallion and have it evaluated. The owner must pay the
government back some of this subsistence allowance, which normally comes
from the stud fees or when the stallion is sold. In some cases, but not
in all cases, the owner has chosen to sell the stallion to the meat
packer. Again, this is not an easy decision, but made based on the
choices available to the owner. I also have to add that there is a
trend for most non-licensed stallions to become geldings.
There is not much of a market in Norway for geldings, nor any
non-breeding horse. Most horse shows are for exhibiting or evaluating
the breeding stock. There is also very little land and feed in western
Norway where most of the Fjord horses live. We hope that in the future
more Europeans decide to buy Norwegian Fjord Horse geldings.
> 2) I am curious what it costs to bring a Gelding over to the states from
> Norway. What does a typical, nothing fancy, Fjord gelding go for over there
> in U.S. currency and what does it cost just to get the gelding overseas to
> the U.S.
The price of all horses in Norway is negotiated with the owner. In our
case, we first negotiated a price for a stallion, then for a gelding,
since the horse we had chosen did not get his breeding license (long
story). We were told that the government would not allow us to export a
non-licensed stallion. The price for a gelding can be between $1,000 to
$2,000 in U.S. currency, depending on the current exchange rate. Then
add for vet
fees for gelding, board and care while in Norway (ours was there 2
months after the evaluation), and the cost of shipping to Oslo. There
are also government fees and costs for blood tests, microchip, and
passports. For us, all the costs in Norway, including the horse, came
to about $3,000. The transportation costs from Oslo via Amsterdam to
JFK airport in New York was $2,325. This will increase if there are
less than 3 horses coming at the same time. The airlines charge by the
pallet and a pallet holds 3 adult horses or 6 weanlings or yearlings.
The transportation costs will also change based on the ports you have
chosen. Once the horse is in this country, there is another $1700 to
$1800 charge per horse to cover the expenses to the shipper caused by
the US Department of Agriculture rules and quarantine. You also have to
add any additional costs for shipment in the U.S. to get the horse to
you.
There is one major advantage to importing geldings and young horses.
You don't have to have the horse quarantined for CEM testing. The CEM
testing can take a few days for mares and a few weeks for stallions.
You have to pay for transportation to the CEM quarantine station and
daily board.
I hope this long explanation helps answer your questions and concerns.
Curt Pierce
Bristow, VA
Solvar says he is glad that he lives in the U.S. He likes the grass!
Enjoy your Fjords!
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Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 20:06:26 -0500
From: Curtis Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Getting a Fjord from Norway
This message is from: Curtis Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> This message is from: "D T" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I have heard that in Norway the Geldings are generally sold for meat or
> something, in other words they are killed. I guess the Norwegians don't
> value Geldings the same as Americans do. Anyway I wanted to know
>
>1) Is that true, about being killed as they have little value?
First of all, the Norwegians value their Fjord Horses as much and
probably more than anyone else. The situation you are referring to is
much more complicated than simply selling the geldings for meat.
The situation happens at the end of the annual stallion evaluations.
Let me clarify another misconception. The Norwegian government rules do
not say that a stallion without his license must be gelded or sold as
meat. The rules only say that the stallion's future offspring can not
be registered. When a stallion does not receive a license for breeding,
the owner has some hard decisions to make. In most cases, the owner has
very little room and feed to keep a non-breeding horse. Also, the owner
has probably received some subsistence allowances from the government to
raise the stallion and have it evaluated. The owner must pay the
government back some of this subsistence allowance, which normally comes
from the stud fees or when the stallion is sold. In some cases, but not
in all cases, the owner has chosen to sell the stallion to the meat
packer. Again, this is not an easy decision, but made based on the
choices available to the owner. I also have to add that there is a
trend for most non-licensed stallions to become geldings.
There is not much of a market in Norway for geldings, nor any
non-breeding horse. Most horse shows are for exhibiting or evaluating
the breeding stock. There is also very little land and feed in western
Norway where most of the Fjord horses live. We hope that in the future
more Europeans decide to buy Norwegian Fjord Horse geldings.
> 2) I am curious what it costs to bring a Gelding over to the states from
> Norway. What does a typical, nothing fancy, Fjord gelding go for over there
> in U.S. currency and what does it cost just to get the gelding overseas to
> the U.S.
The price of all horses in Norway is negotiated with the owner. In our
case, we first negotiated a price for a stallion, then for a gelding,
since the horse we had chosen did not get his breeding license (long
story). We were told that the government would not allow us to export a
non-licensed stallion. The price for a gelding can be around $2,000 in
U.S. currency, depending on the current exchange rate. Then add for vet
fees for gelding, board and care while in Norway (ours was there 2
months after the evaluation), and the cost of shipping to Oslo. There
are also government fees and costs for blood tests, microchip, and
passports. For us, all the costs in Norway, including the horse, came
to about $3,000. The transportation costs from Oslo via Amsterdam to
JFK airport in New York was $2,325. This will increase if there are
less than 3 horses coming at the same time. The airlines charge by the
pallet and a pallet holds 3 adult horses or 6 weanlings or yearlings.
The transportation costs will also change based on the ports you have
chosen. Once the horse is in this country, there is another $1700 to
$1800 charge per horse to cover the expenses to the shipper caused by
the US Department of Agriculture rules and quarantine. You also have to
add any additional costs for shipment in the U.S. to get the horse to
you.
There is one major advantage to importing geldings and young horses.
You don't have to have the horse quarantined for CEM testing. The CEM
testing can take a few days for mares and a few weeks for stallions.
You have to pay for transportation to the CEM quarantine station and
daily board.
I hope this long explanation helps answer your questions and concerns.
Curt Pierce
Bristow, VA
Solvar says he is glad that he lives in the U.S. He likes the grass!
Enjoy your Fjords!
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Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 22:25:46 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Do Fjords enjoy playing with those rubber horse balls?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In a message dated 12/06/2001 12:32:40 AM !!!First Boot!!!,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<<
I was wondering if anyone uses those rubber horse balls or hangs plastic
jugs with beans in it from trees for the Fjords to play with. I have heard
that some horses enjoy that type of thing. Any feedback?
>>
We have a couple of those horse balls hanging from the trees and in the
corrals, and our fjord never plays with it.
He will however, chew on the wood of the barn (grr), and if I leave the bale
strings where he can reach it, he will chew on it too, or anything else for
that matter.
Go figure!!!
Rondi Tyler.
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Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 01:01:58 -0500
From: "John & Eunice Bosomworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re:where is the snow?!
This message is from: "John & Eunice Bosomworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Didn't think I would ever be saying that a little snow would be just fine!
We are not used to 60+ degree weather in December. I cut the lawn
today (Dec. 5) ...hopefully this will finally be the last for this seaon.
We have had a lot of rain. When our weanlings were let out for a run last
week,
3 of them found a BIG mud puddle and rolled in it -- like pigs. Should
have had the camera.
Fjordally yours, Eunice
John & Eunice Bosomworth
Deere Country Fjords
Ayton, Ontario, CANADA
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Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 07:05:31 +0100
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Do Fjords enjoy playing with those rubber horse balls?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I boght such a ball for my Fjord and our Haflinger. They didn't play with
it, but my dog had stolen it and like it very much ... This horse ball is
now a dog ball and used every day :-))
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Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 06:39:52 +0000
From: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: gettin' the cows and wood chewing
This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Bonnie,
I checked out Maple (Acer) and Linden (Tilia) species on this site :
http://www.ansci.cornell.edu/plants/index.html
and there were no red flags raised...so keep tossing those branches ;~D
It's funny, but my fjords are not wood eaters. They are out on very rough
pasture allot of the time, and when brought in, they ignore the wood in the
stalls and just loaf, but not the "regular" horses! We put old engine oil
brushed on the wood they try to chew - probably just as toxic as creosote,
but allot less $$!
Yes, Bonnie, the fjordies & I get to play with the cows now and then. Dave
now has about 30 head; 10 of them are yearlings, and they are here on the
ranch where we live & caretake, the older ones are all mixed in w/ another
larger herd on a ranch we lease for cattle & hay from the BLM, all together
about 130 are over there.
This Sat. am we get to go vaccinate, so that means getting to bring 'em in
to the sorting area. My 5 y.o. mare Alycia (Sven x Thyri<Gromar>) isn't a
cutting horse, (sorry, IMO fjords don't come close to what a good 'cowy'
cutting horse can do, but she is fearless and will watch a cow, and can stay
on 'em, hold 'em & push 'em w/ the best of them.
Her little sister, Idelle (Sven x Tise <Sivert>) is a little hotter (takes
after her dam Tise) and she is skittish about cows. For some reason, she
missed being in with them, and now she is 3 1/2 and acting up around them -
time to put her in with the yearlings for some de-sensitizing!
Karen McCarthy
Great Basin Fjords
Carson City, NV
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Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 02:15:13 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Speaking of: Escapes/ "treated wood posts"
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In a message dated 12/5/01 9:42:00 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< Thanks Jack for the info. I had not read your message when I posted my
concerns that the wood must be toxic to man and beast. Scary. Jean >>
Hi there again,
Here's something to try. Ask a carpenter if he burns any pressure treated
wood in his fire place. Then, ask him why not. Then everyone will have reason
to be scared.
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Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 07:24:05 -0500
From: Vivian Creigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Getting a Fjord from Norway
This message is from: Vivian Creigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Curtis Pierce12/4/01 8:06 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> The CEM
> testing can take a few days for mares and a few weeks for stallions.
I wish this were the case however CEM testing on fillies/mares over the age
of 2yrs is 2 weeks in a licensed quarantine facility which costs
approximately $1,200. For stallions it is, I believe, 4 weeks.
Vivian Creigh
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Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 09:11:21 -0500 (EST)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Claudia Galup)
Subject: Information on the Stallion Ring
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Claudia Galup)
I received an e-mail with the title " Information on the Stallion Ring"
from Margaret Strachan, but I couldn't open it..........does anyone know
what this is about?
claudia
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Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 09:24:27 -0500
From: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Information on the Stallion Ring
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
At 09:11 AM 12/6/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Claudia Galup)
>
>I received an e-mail with the title " Information on the Stallion Ring"
>from Margaret Strachan, but I couldn't open it..........does anyone know
>what this is about?
Yeah but I can't talk about it here.
=======================================================
Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry
Mike May, Registrar
Voice 716-872-4114
FAX 716-787-0497
http://www.nfhr.com
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 10:27:14 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Fjord calendars
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In a message dated 12/5/01 3:24:22 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Hi Gayle: Just had a quick look at your web site and wanted to let you know
> you did a beautiful job. Not many quarter horse people around here would
> even give a Fjord a second look. Anyway I live about 45 minutes east of
> Calgary, Alberta and presently have 9 Fjords that I love dearly. Just
> wondering if you might have a couple of these Fjord calendars still
> available. I did see the conversation about them earlier but I hesitated
> because of our crappy dollar. Changed my mind today and thought I'd buy
> myself a Christmas present. Please let me know if their is a chance and how
> much extra you would need for the shipping and postage. Keep up the great
> work you and your husband are doing with the Fjords. Hope to be at
> Nordicfest next year. Was to late to get accommodations this year.
> Have A Good Day,
> Marg Shorhen
Hi Marg,
Thank you for the kind words.
Regarding the Fjord calendars - I received so many requests for them that I
had to reorder twice! The last time, I ordered 5 extras just for in case
purposes. Next year I will start earlier taking orders! This just kind of
took me by surprise since, as I mentioned earlier, I have these calendars
made each Christmas for friends and family, but they are spendy to have made
so never thought of offering them to anyone else!
It looks as though I would have one left for you provided everyone who has
ordered one still wants them. I am not sure what the difference in postage
will be to Can. I will have to check on that and can let you know about that
privately.
Linda Kerr, could you contact me privately, please? I tried to email you,
but it came back to me. Don't know if, perhaps, I did not get your email
address correct?
I will be sending the calendars out tomorrow to those folks who have sent
their checks.
Thanx!
Gayle Ware
Field of Dreams
Eugene, OR
www.fjordhorse.com
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Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 08:40:35 -0700
From: Pat Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Do Fjords enjoy playing with those rubber horse balls?
This message is from: Pat Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Along with this, would jugs with beans work to keep the horses from being
bored. We are finding that the fjords are eating wood in the barn. What to
do about that.
pat
ttfn
D T wrote:
> This message is from: "D T" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> I was wondering if anyone uses those rubber horse balls or hangs plastic
> jugs with beans in it from trees for the Fjords to play with. I have heard
> that some horses enjoy that type of thing. Any feedback?
>
> Deb
>
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Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 07:43:51 -0800 (PST)
From: Cynthia Madden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SECRET SANTA SIGN UP - REPEAT
This message is from: Cynthia Madden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
We have several participants already.! I just wanted
to post the rules again in case they were missed.
Remember the DEADLINE FOR SIGN UP is DECEMBER 10TH.
Everyone is welcome to participate. The "suggested
gift price" is around $25.00. People who live in
Canada or overseas will be matched in-country as much
as
possible. If you wish to participate "worldwide," so
indicate.
If you would like to be part of the Secret Santa gift
exchange, you must e-mail me by December 10th with the
subject line heading, "FH-L Secret Santa." I will
e-mail you notification of your recipient by Dec.
12th.
Because we are starting a little late this year,
please have your gifts to your recipient by January
15th at the latest. You are obligating yourself to
participate when you accept your Secret Santa
recipient's name. Please don't dissapoint someone by
signing up and then not doing your part.
A list of Secret Santa participants will be posted to
the list by January 20th so that those who have not
identified their Secret Santa can make sure they send
the appropriate acknolwedgements. Do make sure your
S.S. knows his or her gift has been received.
If you want to post clues to the list for your Secret
Santa recipient and remain anonymous, you can e-mail
your clues to me for posting from the "ELF"
Please send the following information for your Secret
Santa:
Name:
Email:
Mailing Address:
Delivery Address:
Phone (required for UPS/FED-EX delivery):
What you would most like from your Secret Santa:
What your horse/s would most like from your Secret
Santa:
What size t-shirt or sweat shirt you like - just in
case!):
These ideas are not binding, but people appreciate
having an idea of what you'd like!
DEADLINE FOR SIGNING UP FOR SECRET SANTA: DECEMBER
10TH.
Your Secret Santa ELF,
=====
Cynthia Madden
Las Cruces, NM
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Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 08:47:32 -0700
From: Pat Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: where is the snow?!
This message is from: Pat Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
All the snow is in Utah where it should be for the Olympics. Since the
Olympics are in Salt Lake and Park City, they should have the snow. I would
like a little less in Cache Valley (Utah-Idaho border). We need the snow pack
for water next summer, but I am already tired of driving in it. Hey Ruthie,
what is it like where you reside.
pat
ttfn
John & Eunice Bosomworth wrote:
> This message is from: "John & Eunice Bosomworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Didn't think I would ever be saying that a little snow would be just fine!
> We are not used to 60+ degree weather in December. I cut the lawn
> today (Dec. 5) ...hopefully this will finally be the last for this seaon.
> We have had a lot of rain. When our weanlings were let out for a run last
> week,
> 3 of them found a BIG mud puddle and rolled in it -- like pigs. Should
> have had the camera.
>
> Fjordally yours, Eunice
>
> John & Eunice Bosomworth
> Deere Country Fjords
> Ayton, Ontario, CANADA
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Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 11:34:34 -0600
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: sinus problems
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jean,
Are you feeding the SMZ's or are you dosing them diluted in water with a
syringe?
Steve
Steve White
Waterloo, Nebraska
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Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 10:32:09 -0800
From: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: sinus problems
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Steve thanks for getting to me. This boy it near 18 hands and I went
through two months of dosing him with bute, and about ended up in the
hospital. He did get better about accepting the dosing towards the end.
I must be honest as I have not started SMZs yet. I want to know that that
is the best and only course. He had an allergic reaction to a penicillin
shot when he was a colt. Now twenty. I do have some antique medicine bits
that I might clean out and use.
Some of this I blame on his tremendous reaction to the sarcoid med Regressen
(sp) last winter as it took a lot out of him. One of those sarcoids is
still "working." It is as though all the immune system has gone to the
sarcoids.
Would like your input. Jean
Jean Walters Gayle
[Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter"
Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ]
http://users.techline.com/jgayle
Send $20
Three Horses Press
PO Box 104
Montesano, WA 98563
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Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 13:03:48 -0600
From: Mariposa Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Information on the Stallion Ring
This message is from: Mariposa Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
It sounds like you have got a... whoops, I almost said the "V" word
Mark
Claudia Galup wrote:
> This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Claudia Galup)
>
> I received an e-mail with the title " Information on the Stallion Ring"
> from Margaret Strachan, but I couldn't open it..........does anyone know
> what this is about?
>
> claudia
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Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 19:21:53 +0000
From: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Information on the Stallion Ring
This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Mark & Claudia & anyone else out there,
I too rec'd some "blank" messages from Margaret Strachen which I did not
open & Norton took care of.
Karen McCarthy
Great Basin Fjords
Carson City, NV
- ----Original Message Follows----
From: Mariposa Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 13:03:48 -0600
It sounds like you have got a... whoops, I almost said the "V" word
Mark
Claudia Galup wrote:
> I received an e-mail with the title " Information on the Stallion Ring"
> from Margaret Strachan,does anyone know what this is about?
> claudia
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Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 19:48:26 -0500
From: "dragonriffic_designs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Do Fjords enjoy playing with those rubber horse balls?
This message is from: "dragonriffic_designs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
A friend of mine used one of the horse balls with her stallion (not a
fjord), but he would only play with it when no one was looking (obviously he
didn't realize we WERE looking). IMO, it's kind of trial and error...they
will either like it or not!
reena
> This message is from: "D T" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> I was wondering if anyone uses those rubber horse balls or hangs plastic
> jugs with beans in it from trees for the Fjords to play with. I have heard
> that some horses enjoy that type of thing. Any feedback?
>
> Deb
>
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Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 14:56:30 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: (no subject)
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How many of us have been there and done that. Beware of a gift horse.. LOL
Tillie
A friend gives you a horse... Do you sell it now or
You build a small shelter...$750
You fence in a paddock...$450
Purchase small truck to haul hay...$12,000
Purchase a 2-horse trailer...$2,800
Purchase 2nd horse...$2,500
Build larger shelter with storage...$2,000
More fencing...$1,200
Purchase 3rd horse...$3,000
Purchase 4-horse trailer...$17,500
Purchase larger truck...$23,000
Purchase 4 acres next door...$38,000
More fencing...$2,000
Build small barn...$18,000
Purchase camper for truck...$9,000
Purchase tractor...$23,000
Purchase 4th & 5th horse...$6,500
Purchase 20 acres...$285,000
Build house...$185,000
Build barn...$56,000
More fencing & corrals...$24,000
Build covered arena...$182,000
Purchase Dually...$44,000
Purchase gooseneck w/living quarters...$45,000
Purchase 6th, 7th & 8th horse...$10,750
Hire full time trainer...$50,000
Build house for trainer...$84,000
Buy motor home for shows...$125,000
Hire attorney -- spouse leaving you for trainer...$35,000
Declare bankruptcy, spouse gets everything.
Once again ,Friend feels sorry for you...gives you a horse.....
Dun Lookin' Fjords
Bud,Tillie & Amy Evers
Redmond OR (541) 548-6018
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/8589
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Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 06:50:11 -0600
From: Pat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Solar
This message is from: Pat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I heard that Solar might have passed away. Does anyone know if this is true?
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Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 20:22:10 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: (no subject)
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Tillie-
I loved the joke, isn't it the truth!
Dad & I speak often of the time we spent with you and your family early this
year. Thanks again. You are wonderful : )
Brigid M Wasson
San Francisco Bay Area, CA
<A HREF="http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html";>Our </A>
<A HREF="http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html";>Fjords</A>
/ )__~
/L /L
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