This message is from: Karen Keith <kkke...@hotmail.com>

Additionally, the points on a bay horse are black, not brown.  The agouti gene 
deals with the distribution of black, not brown, to the points (mane, tail, 
lower legs, tips of ears). 

Occasionally you will find a bay horse that has a very pale coat to the point 
where you might wonder if it's a bay or buckskin.  Sometimes it's due to a 
sunburned coat, sometimes it's just a light shade of bay and sometimes it's a 
bit of both.  But it's certainly not the norm.  Shame on Jeopardy for not 
getting it right.

 The bay horse body color has a wide range of shades ranging from a horse that 
looks nearly black to the more common shades of red-browns and oranges and even 
an occasional tan.  

This is why, in my opinion, we have the different shades of brown dun in our 
Fjordies.  Our brown duns are bays first, but the dun gene dilutes whatever 
shade of bay is present.  Similarly, chestnut horses come in a wide range of 
shades and even point colors, and when the dun gene is present, you get a range 
of red dun shades as well.

And just to stir things up on a related topic.  My pet peeve is seeing 
references to the "rare red dun gene, or grey dun gene, or white dun gene, or 
yellow dun gene.  There's is no such thing.  The dun gene is the same gene in 
each case (well, the white dun and yellow dun have an additional and separate 
dilute in play as well).  The dun gene is simply diluting the base color of the 
horse.  Brown dun = bay+dun.  Red dun = chestnut+dun.  Grey dun =black+dun.  
White dun = bay+dun+creme.  Yellow dun = chestnut+dun+creme.   (The creme gene 
is a dilute which creates palominos and buckskins in "ordinary" breeds.  
Palomino = chestnut+creme.  Buckskin = bay+creme.  So technically our white 
duns are buckskin duns, and our yellow duns are palomino duns.)  The Fjord 
colors other than brown dun are only rare because of human selection. 

Karen, No. VA

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On Mar 8, 2013, at 10:37 AM, "Kay Van Natta" <jadeb...@aol.com> wrote:

> This message is from: Kay Van Natta <jadeb...@aol.com>
> 
> 
>     Dun or buckskin in my opinion too!  Tan as a body color takes it out of 
> the bay family...also IMO.   

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