This message is from: Gail Russell <g...@zeliga.com>

I do know of someone who would hold the treat in a pair of plyers.  I think it 
was Marsha Jo Hanna, who may still be on this list.  The horse found that his 
teeth got knocked if he tried to grab a treat from the plyers without being 
careful.  

My apologies for assuming you had little experience.  I actually do find that 
Clinton Anderson's methods work, but I do prefer to give the horse a less harsh 
experience by clicking and treating when the horse gets something right. 

Gail

his message is from: Cindy B Giovanetti <cin...@ipi.org>


<<It is a shame that you had problems with biting.  They are pretty easy to 
fix.  >>

It's not always easy to fix.  Again, I totally realize that somebody else could 
do better -- or at least different -- than I did; but this situation was not 
easy for me to fix.

Yes, I did work with protected contact.  Yes, I did use the 
click-for-turning-your-head-away lessons.  Often he would bite me as he was 
taking the treat from my hand.  So I would click him for whatever good 
behavior and hold out the treat for him.   (And, yes, I do know about 
proper treat delivery.)  He would put his lips in my hand, then bear down, 
taking the treat and a bit of skin at the same time, then snatch his head and 
the treat back.  Yikes! 

Then I tried treating him only with a bucket; but it was just too impractical

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