This message is from: Rovena Kessinger <ro_k...@yahoo.com>
Cindy I probably told you, both of mine did that teeth-scrape thing at first, but then they stopped, I don't know why did it at first or why they stopped. Since I had to wear gloves because of the cold anyway, I didn't pay much attention to it; I thought maybe they just couldn't help it, and that's why people say don't give horses treats, but it did seem a little excessive, and not quite accidental, but not really like they were trying to hurt me on purpose either. More an emotional over-reaction thing. But then they stopped, so I don't know what that was about. I was using baby carrots, but switched to cut-up long carrots (can get them cheap in bulk for juicing). That works really well, because I tend to cut them long and skinny. So I can just hold them by one end. Even if they miss by accidental a little bit, they don't get me. I just have to not shove the carrot up their nose by accident. But even if I use little treats if I run out of carrots, use their lips now. I wish I knew what causes them to switch, but all I can figure is time. They seem somewhat jaded by treats now. My dogs got the same way. They still want to work for the click, it still has the same psychological result, but the treat starts seeming like afterthought. I guess even carrots get boring after a while. But I never found anything they liked better, they seem disappointed to repulsed if I use anything else. Hmm I think I'll ask about that on the CS forum. --- On Mon, 6/24/13, Gail Russell <g...@zeliga.com> wrote: From: Gail Russell <g...@zeliga.com> Subject: RE: NH and CT?? Mouthy? To: "fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com" <fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com> Date: Monday, June 24, 2013, 10:06 PM This message is from: Gail Russell <g...@zeliga.com> I do know of someone who would hold the treat in a pair of plyers. I think it was Marsha Jo Hanna, who may still be on this list. The horse found that his teeth got knocked if he tried to grab a treat from the plyers without being careful. My apologies for assuming you had little experience. I actually do find that Clinton Anderson's methods work, but I do prefer to give the horse a less harsh experience by clicking and treating when the horse gets something right. Gail his message is from: Cindy B Giovanetti <cin...@ipi.org> <<It is a shame that you had problems with biting. They are pretty easy to fix. >> It's not always easy to fix. Again, I totally realize that somebody else could do better -- or at least different -- than I did; but this situation was not easy for me to fix. Yes, I did work with protected contact. Yes, I did use the click-for-turning-your-head-away lessons. Often he would bite me as he was taking the treat from my hand. So I would click him for whatever good behavior and hold out the treat for him. (And, yes, I do know about proper treat delivery.) He would put his lips in my hand, then bear down, taking the treat and a bit of skin at the same time, then snatch his head and the treat back. Yikes! Then I tried treating him only with a bucket; but it was just too impractical Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
