apologies for keeping this thread open...
From what I've gleaned, while the rate quoted to you may be low, it
does sound like a transitionary rate and appropriate. Not that you're
only worth it but because you sound very inexperienced in the market.
What I mean by "inexperienced" is you have to ask if 30k is too low,
and you also have another day job which sounds unrelated to your
Flash/Flex work. So at this point, you may have to grab at what's
offered.
I'd recommend caution with this gig and make sure you're not tied to
it too long. I'd look at it as a "paid internship" where you're
basically getting your first "notch in your belt" as you change careers.
If you haven't considered creating a portfolio for yourself, now is
the time to build it. Don't put too much time into it and especially
don't let it hold you in "almost done" limbo. A list of skills, a
gallery of projects completed (even student and/or "lame" ones), and
contact info are all you need at this stage.
In the meantime, begin to look around your area and find out where
the "real" Flash/Flex work is (studios, ad agencies, internet
companies). Begin to make contacts. Let them know who you are and
you're availability.
Part of making $50/hr (& much more) isn't always about making a
decent rate like everyone else does. It's often about having multiple
potential clients needing your help and willing to pay for it. And
each project you build adds more and more "pre-made" pieces you have
for the next gig. Those "pre-built" pieces are there to save your
client time, but still make you $$ - another foundation for why we
can make much more $$ per hour.
It'll take time to build up your rate, so focus on the first steps:
do a good job with your first gig, get your portfolio up, and get in
touch with the proper market.
good luck =)
-radley
On Jun 20, 2006, at 11:06 AM, Tristan wrote:
Well said. I agree. I'll test the waters and jump out if it's not
working.
I'm still keeping my day job until I'm satisfied with coming on
full time.
Although, now that missiles are being tossed our way, maybe I
should just be
happy to be alive! Geez, I hope someday we all get along. Life's
too short
as it is.
Sorry, off topic comment but, I just heard about it and it's scary
not for
just usa but, for the whole world.
Love,
T
On 6/20/06, Kevin Mulvihill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> $11/ hr accepting that is part of the reason why people think
> they can pay developers peanuts
Here, here.
Denver is a big city comparable to L.A., where I am. And in this
city, bag
boys at grocery stores are making $11/hr. Even way back in '97
when I was
in
my last corporate job, it was costing us $15/hr. just to have a
temp come
in
and put papers in a filing cabinet. Is that how you see yourself? As
unskilled labor???
Now if the idea is just that the guy wants to check you out and
make sure
you can do the work, then I might give him a few DAYS at $11/hr.
and then
revert to an honest pay scale if he wants to keep you... And this
assumes
that you don't have any references or much in the way of code
samples to
share.
The real question then becomes 'how long is it going to take to
get you up
to speed?' If the guy is thinking several months, then you would
clearly
be
foolish to accept that offer. If you don't respect yourself, no
one else
will either... And your getting 'up to speed' could take a very
long time
indeed.
Kevin
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