Claus, Grant, Dave, Samuel, Jesse, Brandon etc. have been on this list since I first joined up 6 or 7 years ago and posted several examples of applications over the years to demonstrate the abilities of Flash. Heck even I did a single large app with Flash 4 (Whatta pain!), 4 more with Flash 5, and than a ton since with every other version...
The fact that you can name the pioneers (and I know who they are) is an indication of how small the group is. A few hundred, heck even a few thousand, is a **VERY** small number. There are hundreds of thousands (or perhaps millions) of people that are serious programmers in Java that have been doing it for many years.
The one thing that I do find somewhat laughable is the necessity to state that a CompSci background is important. For all intents and purposes, by education I'm a designer. I spent a considerable amount of time and money teaching myself programming theories and best practices. To say that I'm unqualified is somewhat insulting considering the effort it took and the passion it shows.
To be fair, I dont think they said this. I used the term to describe the type of background they were describing. From my perspective it doesnt require a comp sci degree, though most people without a fairly disciplined background (self taught or otherwise) dont innately understand a lot of concepts. But I certainly dont think you need to sit in a classroom to learn this stuff. Regards, Hank _______________________________________________ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com