Yeah true, or what's working as well is saying that AS2 code is harder to
maintain and will cost you more money in the future.

Romu
www.soundstep.com


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sidney de
Koning
Sent: 30 July 2008 13:05
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] When to use AS3?

Nice one :)

As i said earlier; we also have advising roles to play. If a specific  
project needs specific technology, dont bend or sway for less. Try to  
convince/explain the client why. Especially if the concept comes from  
the developing party, they thought about it, they'll also make it.

I know sometimes clients can be difficult, what i have noticed, as  
long as you explain why and show them figures, they'll go for it.

Or tell them the competitors ARE using AS3, two seconds ... they'll  
reconsider ;)

Sid

On Jul 30, 2008, at 1:48 PM, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com)  
wrote:

> @Sidney: That's really interesting because at all the places I've  
> worked
> (which isn't many - I've always done coding as a sideline and have  
> only
> recently gone full-time), they seem to be utterly entrenched in FP8  
> (i guess
> using the old 'work to the last player' thinking). I personally  
> would love
> to move the (non-banner) work to AS3 as it's a far more elegant way of
> working. I find that the clients tend to dictate it based on  
> whatever plugin
> their IT department have set them up with.
>
> a
>
>
> NOTE: This is taken from the interview thread and I thought it might  
> be
> worth having it's own one
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Sidney de Koning
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>> Hi allandt,
>>
>> As agencies we also have a advising role to play towards the  
>> customer, so
>> we only do AS3 projects, hardly any AS2 (maybee some banners in  
>> FP8). So we
>> try to advice/push the client towards AS3 projects, which, most of  
>> the
>> times, is better for all parties invloved.
>>
>> Sid
>>
>>
>> On Jul 30, 2008, at 1:24 PM, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com)
>> wrote:
>>
>> hmmm - i didn't do bad (without looking stuff up) but i must say  
>> that i've
>>> not been asked to do a single as3 project since i started doing  
>>> agency
>>> work
>>> - the only time i've done an as3 project was for an interactive cd  
>>> so i
>>> could set my own target for the projector file. Most of the work i  
>>> do in
>>> digital agencies has been targeted at flash player 8 or (even  
>>> worse) 6 so
>>> AS2 has been more important than AS3.
>>>
>>> Under what sort of circumstances do you find that AS3 is used?
>>>
>>> a
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Sidney de Koning
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>>
>>> The list of questions i always ask interviewees are the following,  
>>> and
>>>> this
>>>> gives me a pretty good example of what they are like and what their
>>>> skillset
>>>> is.
>>>>
>>>> Test is always accompanied with a practical test we make up on  
>>>> the spot.
>>>> The XML in Q16 is made up, you can create your own for this.
>>>>
>>>> Feel free to use this,
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Sid
>>>>
>>>> 1  - write an event listener (normal and weak referenced) and  
>>>> handling
>>>> function for a Sprite
>>>>      named 'beginQuestions' and listen for a  mouse click.
>>>> 2  - what does weak referenced mean in regards to event listeners?
>>>> 3  - what is the difference between an object an an array?
>>>> 4  - how doe you get cue point from vidio in AS3? And in AS2?
>>>> 5  - briefly explain the various datatypes for numbers.
>>>> 6  - how do you load an external file?
>>>> 7  - draw a 20px by 20px Rectangle using the graphics API.
>>>> 8  - which of the following cannot contain other display objects?
>>>>      Sprite, Shape, MovieClip, DisplayObjectContainer.
>>>> 9  - which properties can you use to change the size of  
>>>> DisplayObjects?
>>>> 10 - ENTER_FRAME is independant of an SWF's frame rate? True or  
>>>> false?
>>>> 11 - XP is a type of which programming methology?
>>>> 12 - why would you use a Singleton?
>>>> 13 - what is the Document Class?
>>>> 14 - create a new TextField instance, then add text it, then add  
>>>> some
>>>> more
>>>> text.
>>>> 15 - what is the difference between public, private and protected.
>>>> 16 - look at the piece of XML (see other sheet). How do i:
>>>>      - Get all of the page nodes as an XMLList.
>>>>      - Get node in showcase where the attribute id=1.
>>>> 17 - listen for when the 'enter key' is pressed and
>>>>      trace out "all questions are now done" when the event happens.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sidney de Koning
>>>> Flash / AIR Developer @ www.funky-monkey.nl
>>>> Technical Writer @ www.insideria.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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