RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price

[Lucian Beebe]

Wow, Hans, I couldn’t have said it better.   We really do hear you. We really are trying to make the absolute best Flex development platform possible. And focus is the whole way we are getting there. The passion in this thread has served to underscore the desirability of Flex, and for that, we truly thank you. We will continue to guide Flex development and evolution so it remains every bit as desirable during every step of its evolution. Our care in its evolution will guarantee a good experience for everyone who gets involved.   Thank you   Lucian   From: Simon Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 9:50 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price   Good point Robert.   Regards, Simon -----Original Message----- From: Robert Stuttaford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 April 2005 18:46 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price Simon,   It is possible, currently, to use Flex with FlashORB for remoting. Apart from the license, it’s perfectly capable of being a standalone product… mxmlc.exe is the compiler, I imagine a simple GUI for that would be all one would need.   Technically sensible, but I think Macromedia want to regain some of their investment and let the current incarnation mature somewhat. As Hans mentions below, I’m sure Macromedia are aware that Flex could provide massive benefit outside of their current focus.   We’ll see, I guess J   Robert   From: Simon Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 April 2005 07:30 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price   Perhaps Macromedia are planning a version of Flex that will allow the programmer to use MXML/Actionscript to generate an SWF, without the whole Flex Server Side Application (sorry - Flex Enterprise Server!)   I imagine that the price for this would still be more than Flash MX 2004 Pro say £1,200 or so. I would pay that. Of course then connecting up to a server would still be a difficult task especially when you've used Flex and its built in Flash Remoting Gateway and experienced how easy it makes it. So small companies that build web sites and small webapps would be able to take advantage of MXML without having to use Flash to do the whole job. Of course they would still buy Flash because its good or doing animation - just look at all those Flash Banner ads.   Has this option been considered at Macromedia?   Simon Fifield -----Original Message----- From: Hans Omli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 April 2005 18:16 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price Macromedia selected the medium/large enterprise as the beachhead to establish Flex as a worthwhile technology in the marketplace.  With 200 customers as of December, I'd say Macromedia has been quite successful laying this foundation.  It seems to me the new pricing signals an even greater focus on this market segment as Flex moves from a technology used by innovators (most of us here) to a product for early adopters.  Since early adopters are most willing to pay high prices for the right to use a new product, the new pricing seems to make sense.  I had expected new pricing in the 2.0 timeframe since this would be a natural point for transitioning from a technology to a product focus, but can see that early adopters are probably more interested in development support than they are in additional functionality at this point in the adoption life cycle.  So, from that standpoint, the recent price changes combined with bundled support make a whole lot of business sense. Most of the friction around Flex pricing is more a question of target market than anything else, with the high level of friction in forums like this indicating to me there is significant demand for technology like Flex coming from many other markets outside of medium/large enterprises.  I will be curious to see if/how Macromedia expands Flex into a more mainstream market. I suppose in some sense this has already begun with the limited use of Flex in ColdFusion MX 7.  Nonetheless, it seems there is still quite a bit of money on the table for Laszlo and others to pursue... at least for now.   Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.