Totally - but my friends uncle's brother-in-law's dad's cousin went to one of those top secret Committee meetings once.. a few years ago.. I'm pretty sure. That's what HE said - I pretty much heard it straight from the source... and saw it on the internet - and the wealth of extremely reliable information in holds - cuz the internet never lies.
On other terms - what about the fact that a license to run VS.NET that'll actually get you enterprise level functionality is going to run you about 3x what Flex Builder 3 will? Doesn't that at least say SOMETHING for Adobe? --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "Josh McDonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > *shakes head* > > This has gone waaaaaay off-topic. Way to Go(dwin) > > On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 6:45 PM, Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hahahahahahahah > > > > Silverlight is cross-platform? > > > > I don't think cross-platform means what you think it means. > > > > I tried tried to run some Silverlight apps on XP64 when I still had a > > Windoze box. It didn't work at all. > > > > I still have never seen a working Silverlight app. > > > > If it works that well on a Windoze platform I can only imagine how well it > > works on Macs and Linux. > > > > As for traction -- not sure if you noticed but Flash player is in much > > broader use then Windoze will ever be. > > > > You are right about the industry upgrading though. The kids are wising up > > and upgrading away from Microsuxor. > > > > Microsoft is all about standards. All about breaking them. It even breaks > > it's own 'standards'. > > > > > > > > As for being evil... > > > > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=bill+gates+eugenics > > > > > > Time will tell whether, God Forbid, the Svalbard Doomsday Seed Bank of Bill > > Gates and the Rockefeller Foundation is part of another Final Solution, this > > involving the extinction of the Late, Great Planet Earth.<http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7529> > > > > Gates' connection with the pagan anti-Semitic Lucis (formerly Lucifer) > > Trust <http://www.rense.com/general72/GATES.HTM> > > > > If you disagree then tell me why all the conference rooms in the Bill and > > Melinda Gates Foundation are named after Eugenic Scientists. > > > > As for all of Bill's employees -- regardless of where they came from -- > > they, and you (Scott), are now Satan's little helpers. > > > > * > > * > > > > *Since 1954, meetings have been arranged at least once a year on different > > locations every time - very secret. The members are around 120 persons from > > the high finance circles of Western Europe, the US and Canada. Although the > > meetings are very hidden and nothing, or very little leaks to the > > international media (which is natural, as most of the Media Moguls are > > Bilderbergers; so much for free press), the independent news- magazine > > "Spotlight" has been able to report from the meetings. The reporters have > > successfully been able to hide listening devices in certain areas, so some > > of the information around the meetings can be exposed to the public.* > > > > *Invited are also political leaders from different countries. Their > > flight-tickets are paid by the Committee, and there is free food and drinks > > etc. The purpose of the group is a World Government by the year 2012 and a > > global army through the UN. The take-over is partly planned to involve > > computers. Bill Gates, connected with the Illuminati and the Director of > > Microsoft, has a satanic lodge inside the huge Microsoft Headquarter > > building. * > > http://www.nogw.com/illuminati.html > > > > * > > For those who would argue that meetings such as Gates's summit or the other > > secret gatherings on the growing "star chamber" circuit amount to little > > more than a private ego trip for those who organize and attend them, then > > why all the secrecy? Why bar the press? Since public policy is likely to be > > addressed, and since elected officials are often included in such meetings, > > there's even merit in the argument that keeping such meetings secret may > > violate local, state and federal open meetings laws. The bottom line: if > > there's nothing to hide, why act like you're hiding so much? > > > > *http://www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/gates.html* > > * > > > > > > > > Windoze Vista is patented Spyware<http://news.softpedia.com/news/Forget-about-the-WGA-20- Windows-Vista-Features-and-Services-Harvest-User-Data-for-Microsoft- 58752.shtml> > > > > > > *What we've gone through in the last several years has caused some people > > to question 'Can we trust Microsoft?'** > > -- Steve Ballmer<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/s/steveballm127587.ht ml> > > * * > > > > > > > > "I for one, would love to see Steve Jobs and Steve Ballmer fight to the > > death.**" -- A3 <http://www.blogger.com/profile/06782377480678564756>* > > > > * > > The Babylon man accepts all that he hears. > > They walk with suspicion and walk with spears. > > Government propaganda warps their mind, > > They think the Rasta man should be confined. > > Just because he lights a spark and takes a hit, > > A man can go to jail just because he lit the spliff. > > But it is because it can light the way to Zion. > > They see it can take away pain and hate. > > They must keep the power so suffering they create. > > There'll be no power when we burn down Babylon.* > > > > * > > > > Horsemouth <http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0908752/>: I-man serve Selassie I > > continually. No matter what the weak heart say. And I know that I & I is > > like a tree, plant by the river of water, and not even the dog that piss > > against the wall of Babylon shall escape this judgment. For I & I know that > > all of the youth shall witness the day that Babylon shall fall! * > > > > > > > > > > Scott Barnes wrote: > > > > > > - Cross Platform > > - Silverlight is x-platform. > > - Much more traction and an established user base. > > - Depends on which brochure you want to read (Adobe/Microsoft), but > > we've got approx 20,000 folks registered on Silverlight.NET forums and > > there's approx 9,000+ here on this forum. Furthermore, Adobe's entire > > development population is measured in thousands, where as .NET folks are > > measured in millions. Given the industry is in what we'd call an upgrade > > phase, it will be interesting to see how this pans out in the near future > > and how the desktop vs web converge. We've not tapped into how many folks > > are using the Dynamic Language Runtime and given projects like the PHP > > community, may also swell the numbers further etc..( > > http://www.infoq.com/news/2008/01/Silverlight-PHP) we have more > > plans to grow Silverlight beyond the .NET way of life, its about standards > > and open source with us as well :) but hey, which brochure you want to > > believe in is up to you.. no harm no foul. > > - Standard (client-side) libraries are allegedly a lot broader in Flex > > than Silverlight. > > - Again, depends on who's brochure you want to believe. We've got > > more third party vendors producing Silverlight/WPF related controls today, > > and Codeplex.com has 98 Silverlight specific projects available that we know > > of. WPF and Silverlight have the ability share and re-use the same code base > > depending on specific features and so, this is kind of an open debate with > > an unlikely definitive outcome in terms of a definition of win. > > - Not evil. > > - Microsoft isn't evil, its just me :) .. Evil is a typical term > > that at times is associated with the brand, but given half the people I work > > with came from Apple/Adobe/Macromedia/IBM/Sun/Google? does that make them > > evil as well in that when they handed in their identity badges at companies > > like Macromedia/Adobe did they pass through some gate which sprayed them > > with Evil? .. > > - Price. > > - Silverlight is Free as in beer, you can code in Visual Studio > > Express for free today and produce Silverlight. We're also seeing folks > > spin-up Eclipse like editors (eg: > > http://arstechnica.com/journals/linux.ars/2007/09/03/lunar- eclipse-open-source-silverlight-design-tool-for-linux) > > for Silverlight and there are more and more being developed today (in fact > > I'm meeting with someone on Monday about his editor + Silverlight and other > > languages) > > > > Adobe AIR's actual use in the mainstream is open for debate, but we believe > > with Silverlight and WPF we've got all areas covered. We're also ensuring > > Silverlight runtime works on the mobile in the future and at MIX we joined > > forces with Nokia to make this a reality. The same runtime will work on the > > desktop and device, and this means there will not be a "Silverlight lite" vs > > "Silverlight" (as we've heard from customers around the problems of having > > Flash lite vs Flash). > > > > HTH. > > > > On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Josh McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Well the benefits (assuming silverlight as the other option) become: > >> > >> * Cross platform > >> * Much more traction and an established user base > >> * Standard (client-side) libraries are allegedly a lot broader in Flex > >> than Silverlight. Just repeating what I've heard here though, I don't know > >> for sure. > >> * Not evil - IMHO of course, but this _is_ a Flex list ;-) > >> * Don't quote me on this, but probably substantially cheaper (for a > >> commercial license) unless you already have VS > >> > >> I don't know what capabilities the Silverlight equivalent of AIR has. But > >> AIR apps will run on Mac Win and Linux, whereas Silverlight is Mac / Win > >> (client plugin) only, development is Win only. Also the AIR equivalent may > >> even be windows-clients only. Personally I avoid anything that means I'm > >> stuck with any one platform. I like choice, what if the next Windows / OS X > >> is awful? > >> > >> -Josh > >> > >> On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 2:00 PM, itdanny2002 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> But if the only to do the sync is to > >>> install a program in desktop. Then, > >>> any benefit of AIR is better than > >>> Microsoft'stuf ? Sorry, it is a management > >>> question so that we can sell our management > >>> while our other development is on MS platform. > >>> Inshort, any good point in AIR which is better ? > >>> > >>> Thanks > >>> > >>> --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "Josh McDonald" <dznuts@><dznuts@>wrote: > >>> > > >>> > Anything that lives in a browser is not going to be able to have a > >>> local > >>> > database, going to microsoft won't change that. > >>> > > >>> > On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 11:03 AM, itdanny2002 <Chow.Danny@> > >>> wrote: > >>> > > >>> > > I need to build a web-based Application which > >>> > > has data in Client & Server, sync is required. > >>> > > > >>> > > AIR > >>> > > --- > >>> > > Support SQLite in client side - It's ok but we > >>> > > want web-based so that installation is not > >>> > > required. Go to anywhere, just a click to see > >>> > > data. > >>> > > > >>> > > FLEX > >>> > > ---- > >>> > > It can't have database operation such as SQLite > >>> > > in client. I don't think cookie is a solution due > >>> > > to large volume of data. > >>> > > > >>> > > I need to defence and stay in Flex faction in > >>> > > my company. Any good point(s) that make me won't > >>> > > in camp of VS.Net ? > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > ------------------------------------ > >>> > > > >>> > > -- > >>> > > Flexcoders Mailing List > >>> > > FAQ: > >>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt > >>> > > Search Archives: > >>> > > http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders% 40yahoogroups.comYahoo! > >>> Groups > >>> > > Links > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > -- > >>> > "Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls. It tolls for > >>> thee." > >>> > > >>> > :: Josh 'G-Funk' McDonald > >>> > :: 0437 221 380 :: josh@ > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------------ > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Flexcoders Mailing List > >>> FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt > >>> Search Archives: > >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups > >>> Links > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> "Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls. It tolls for thee." > >> > >> :: Josh 'G-Funk' McDonald > >> :: 0437 221 380 :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Regards, > > > > Scott Barnes > > Rich Client Platform Manager > > Microsoft. > > > > http://blogs.msdn.com/msmossyblog > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > "Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls. It tolls for thee." > > :: Josh 'G-Funk' McDonald > :: 0437 221 380 :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
