Well it looks like [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Josh McDonald) used that expletive.
So I redirect. Don't try to start a real fight by telling some one to
f___ o___ as you did.
And if you dare have the guts to threaten someone in such a way,
either make an arrangement legally to get in the dojo, or come talk to
the Sheriff in my town.
I take your comment as a direct threat.
-r
On Aug 31, 2008, at 6:36 PM, Josh McDonald wrote:
Look buddy, everybody in here's been real polite so far.
Fuck off.
-Josh
On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 3:17 AM, Robert Thompson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
To answer your question about any purchaser of Adobe products having
to "license" an example they put out for use.
Microsoft, Adobe, nearly every company puts (C) Copyright statements
in it's examples.
This is to prevent competitors from outright distributing code they
have no right to.
As examples to the FLEX Builder Product Owner, these examples have a
very real place in teaching you how things are done.
The Hybrid and Store 2.0 examples are frankly not as complicated as
you might think - as long as you base all your data exchange on XML.
As long as you create your own system, I wouldn't worry about it.
But the future of AIR and Flash Player I would worry about.
My hope is Papervision comes out with their own Plug-in; as at this
point and time, it's the perfect timing to let Flash Player 9 and
earlier deal with all the earlier sites.
And spread the word, if they choose to develop one, a Papervision3D
plug-in, and began where FutureWave did, with a fresh new high
performance platform for Visual Computing.
The IT integration with things like Cold Fusion can then happen in
more of a W3C and SOAP XML complaint way (Or RESTful XML way).
I myself am playing things safer, including in the use of any
ColdFusion, by taking the following route:
Using FTD Enterprise 3.0 as my IDE so it's not an Adobe Product
Using Open .SWF formats and tools, and Flash CS3 only when necessary
for my clients
Working on a new Cycling '72 like visual interface for programming
and generating .SWF's (or hopefully .P3D's if Papervision3D
hopefully goes out on their own since it appears Adobe cannot be
trusted and is getting prideful and greedy in my opinion (what
they're trying to do now with Acrobat is a joke; and I thought that
before the discoveries of last week)
Encouraging Papervision3D to go out on their own and take this great
opportunity in time and be the next "FutureSplash" by developing
their own plug-in
Integrating CUDO graphic support into OpenLaszlo.org version 4.0
Anything that allows use of Adobe products only when necessary, and
changing focus on W3C Standards and more reasonable people who are
less greedy to do not charge large sums of money to a development
community and then turn on them. Even Microsoft is not doing with
Adobe is doing. I've always saw them as a "deal with when
necessary" company and was pulling for them 100% until last week. I
have no love for them at all anymore. I see a dark future for them
as they are growing lustful obviously with the possibilities of
AIR. Things will change though.
The safest route at this time while Adobe is creating FLEX
applications for these companies, is to take a step back, and big
breath, and look at the long-term future of the Web.
Look at the clients they have served on Scene7.com and the fact that
a FLEX interface is, was, and will continue to be used to complete
projects like the NIKE project (which many of us on this list have
the capability of doing)
Here's the NIKE project,
http://www.nike.com/index.jhtml?cp=USNS_AD_0724081536&l=nikestore,grid,_pdp,cid-1/gid-98967/pid-98967,_grid,f-35015%2010001&re=US&co=US&la=EN#l
=nikestore,grid,_pdp,cid-1/gid-98967/
pid-98967,_grid,f-35015%2010001&re=US&co=US&la=EN
Here's the client list that some of FLEX coders who spent money on
projects could have possibly bid on (whether it's ELanc.com or any
of the other freelance, or bidding hubs out there),
1154 LILL STUDIO
AdsPay USA
AGAM Group, Ltd.
Aircraft Shopper Online
AlluraDirect.com
Al's Formal Wear
Amazon.com
Anderson Press Incorporated
Annalee Mobilitee Dolls, Inc.
Ann Taylor
Anthropologie
ARTstor
Art Van Furniture
Auction123, Inc.
Baghaus
Bare Necessities
Baseball Express, Inc.
Bass Pro Shops
Bassett Furniture
Bath & Body Works
Beall's Department Stores, Inc.
Beau Ties Ltd. of Vermont
Behr Paint
Benchmark Brands
Bernie & Phyl's Furniture
Bertolini Sanctuary Seating
Best & Co.
Blockbuster
Bloomingdale's
Bombay Company
Brewster Wallcovering Company
Bronner's CHRISTmas Wonderland
Butterfield & Robinson
California State University at Fullerton
Calvert Education Services
Casual Male Retail Group, Inc.
CATFootwear.com
Cathy's Concept
Cendant
Chaparral Motorsports
Chicago Historical Society
Chic Mystique
Children's Wear Digest
Cloudveil
Club Colors
Coldwater Creek
Commemorative Brands
Cookie Lee
Corporate Express
Cost Plus, Inc.
CPA2Biz
Cutter & Buck
David's Bridal
DayTimers
Delightful Deliveries
Delta Faucet Company
Dennis Kirk
Design Center Solutions (DCS)
Design Toscano
Design Within Reach
Diamond H Recognition
Direct Supply, Inc.
Drexel Heritage Furniture Industries, Inc.
DoItYourself.com
eBags.com
eBizAutos
Eddie Bauer
Eileen Fisher, Inc
EMI Plastic Equipment
enavia.com
Exclusively Weddings
ExOfficio
F. Schumacher & Co.
Fathead
Filativa
Finestationery.com
Fiori Belli
Follett Higher Education Group
Fortunoff.com
Forzieri
Foto Source Canada Inc
Fresh Produce
Furniturefind.com
Furniture Village
FutureStock
G&K Services
Gaiam
Gevalia Kaffe
Gienow Windows & Doors
Golfsmith
Gottschalks
GreatOccasions.com
Gucci Group N.V.
Hammacher Schlemmer
Hancock Fabrics
Hanna Andersson
Harley Davidson
Harrods.com
Hartford York
Hartmann, Inc.
Hartwell Classic Apparel
Havertys Furniture
Heritage
Hershey Co., The
Historic Golf
The Home Depot
Hunter Douglas
HSN
Hush Puppies
ICM Corporation
Illuminations
Intermix
Jessops
J & R Music
J. C. Penney Corporation, Inc.
JustBlinds.com
Justin Brands
Kaleidoscope
KI
kimiko fisika
LaCrosse Footwear, Inc.
LAMPS PLUS
Lands' End
La-Z-Boy
Learning Resources®
Lenox, Inc.
Levenger
Levi Strauss & Co.
Lillian Vernon
Long Meadow Ranch
LustreColor
Macys.com
Mannington Mills, Inc.
Material Flow and Conveyor Systems
Men's Wearhouse
Merrell
Mervyns
Metro Uniforms
Mitchell Gold
Momentum Group
Moosejaw Mountaineering
Mothercare
Mount Vernon Nazarene University
NapaStyle
National Business Furniture
Nectar
New Balance Athletic Shoe, Inc.
NewOrleansOnline.com
NINFRA
Northwestern University
Odimo
Office Depot, Inc.
OhioLINK
Ohio State University
Oli
OTTO UK
Pacific Coast Lighting
Pacific Sunwear
PalmBeach Jewelry
Paradise Pen
Party Rental Ltd
Pendleton Woolen Mills
Personal Creations
PETCO
Plum Island Silver Company
Polaris
Polo Ralph Lauren Corporation
Pottery Barn
Pottery Barn Kids
President's Choice
Professional Cutlery Direct
PUMA North America
Punch! Software
Quixtar
QVC
Randall K Designers Experss
R.C. Bigelow
Reading Glasses To Go
Re-Bath
Redcats USA
Red Hats and More
Restoration Hardware
Rhodes Furniture
Road Runner Sports, Inc.
Robb & Stucky
Roman, Inc.
S&S Worldwide
Samuels Jewelers
Scripps Networks
Sears
Sea Gull Lighting
Shari's Berries
Shaw Industries, Inc.
Shofu Dental Corporation
Shop.org
Siegler & Co.
Sierra Trading Post
SmartWool®
Smith & Noble
Sources2go.com
Sportsman's Guide
Springs Window Fashions LP
Stage Stores, Inc.
Stumps Printing, Inc.
The Boy Scouts of America
The Conran Shop
The Shade Store
The Shopping Channel
Thomasville
Title Nine
Tommy Hilfiger Corporation
Track 'n Trail
Treasures From a Bygone Era
Tropitone
TSC Apparel
Tuesday Morning
Ulla Popken
Under Armour
United Retail Group
UpFootgear.com
Urban Decay
Vann's
Veer
Vera Bradley
Venus Swimwear
Victoria 's Secret
VML
Wehkamp
west elm
Williams-Sonoma, Inc.
Williams-Sonoma Home
Wolverine World Wide
Workbookstock.com
Zillow.com
On Aug 31, 2008, at 7:11 AM, Josh McDonald wrote:
Hey Guys,
Wondering what the license is on the Flexstore code? Can it be used
as a basis for commercial products?
And don't look at me like that, it's not my idea.
-Josh
--
"Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls. It tolls for
thee."
:: Josh 'G-Funk' McDonald
:: 0437 221 380 :: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
"Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls. It tolls for
thee."
:: Josh 'G-Funk' McDonald
:: 0437 221 380 :: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
