Dan, The classes explicitly referenced in SystemManager are always linked in the first frame. That said, given the fact that you have open source SDK, you can play quite a few tricks on Flex/linker. First, if you are loading in the application domain you can place your own SystemManager of ~0 size with no references in your modules code hence removing all the baggage you are complaining about. Second, on RSLItem and more importantly on RSLItemsLoader classes - you can implement modifications in the source code to minimize number of server requests for RSLs already loaded, do multistreaming in some cases and customize loading process in runtime to your liking. You are on open source platform - anything goes.
I believe some of these tricks are documented in application performance chapter in our upcoming flex book from oreilly - should be out soon. Regards Anatole Tartakovsky Farata Systems On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:46 AM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote: > > > What goes on in server communications is not my area. Try posting again > with RPC or AMF in the subject. It might then get read by those experts. > > > > I thought utility.swc got folded into framework.swc as well. Flex.swc is > for folks not using the UI framework. > > > > Any classes used in Frame1 cannot be offloaded to the RSL. We did some > refactoring in Flex4 so more classes can get offloaded to the RSL. > > > > Anything you don’t need at startup should be in a module that gets loaded > later. > > > > Alex Harui > > Flex SDK Developer > > Adobe Systems Inc. <http://www.adobe.com/> > > Blog: http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui > > > > *From:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcod...@yahoogroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Dan > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:51 AM > *To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* [flexcoders] Re: Horrible... 3 seconds initialization time for > the first frame? Frustrated.... > > > > > > > Hi, > > First of all, thanks for your response! > Thanks for reminding about the progressive download, I think the 3 seconds > is still to that response time which I mislead by the Charles figure and > think that it already downloaded. > > But there is still one thing that delay the first AMF call. I noticed there > is an unknown amfsecure (yes, i am using https) call before any amfsecure > call issue, and it make a one second delay. Is that for estabishing the > channel? Anyway to improve this? > > Cached framework for framework.swz, rpc.swz and datavisualization has been > used. BTW, why signed library for utility.swc and flex.swc are not > available, because they are too small??? > > Last but not least, is it true that , some of the class like RSLItem from > Adobe, even we use link-report, cannot be removed from a swf? Cause with an > parent application with hundreds of modules to load, that small amount of > depulication in modules means a great issue in terms of total bandwitdh > cost.. > > Regards > Dan > > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com <flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com>, Alex > Harui <aha...@...> wrote: > > > > Using the cached framework should help. > > > > If you test from FlexBuilder you may not get correct streaming. Try > testing using http: instead of file: > > > > Also, there is a bug if you use # in the URL. It blocks streaming of the > SWF and delays startup time. Do you see a progress bar at all? > > > > Alex Harui > > Flex SDK Developer > > Adobe Systems Inc.<http://www.adobe.com/> > > Blog: http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui > > > > From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com <flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto: > flexcoders@yahoogroups.com <flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of > Dan > > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 8:56 PM > > To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com <flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com> > > Subject: [flexcoders] Horrible... 3 seconds initialization time for the > first frame? Frustrated.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > Does anyone have any idea on why it takes nearlly 3 to 4 seconds after a > swf completely downloaded, is it SystemManager initialized and go to the > second frame of the movie? > > > > It is such a great penality for an web application. > > Should I put tasks, such as automatic login to the preloader, in order to > shorten this penality period??? Otherwise, no matter whatever tuning > techique flexcoders applied, the Adobe penality is still too great. > > > > I understand there should be initialization time, and that may depends on > the client machine configuration. However, for a simplest swf with an > <Application> tag only mxml, a log is being output on the onEnterFrame > event, it already takes 3 to 4 seconds for the first log after the swf > complete download, (time logged from Charles), it is so frustrated... > > > > Does it means that we have no way for a faster response time if we choose > Flex? (Didn't mention about the download time for swf already...) > > > > Anyone can help? > > Dan > > > > >
