--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "Abdul Qabiz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > We actually used to tunnel the IIOP through HTTP a lot to avoid this. > > AMF packets also go as HTP POST. Packets are in binary format. > > http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flashremoting/mx/Using_Flash_Remoting_MX/ > intro2.htm#1174485 >
I'm curious exactlty what the stream looks like. We used to try this (well some folk like Iona did) by using an HTTP OPEN, streaming the binary, then closing the stream. All over HTTP right? Nope. The firewalls would peek into the stream and notice the binary and slam the door. The work around was the HEX encode the stream. Now the firewall saw only 7bit ASCII stream. Effectivly a funny looking URI. The negative was that you doubled the size of the packets by HEX encoding them. I'm curious to see what AMF looks like on the line. Looks like fun for a quiet Friday night <wink> In any case. This is a great thread. <your favorite curmudgeon ex-CORBA hack> -- Dave Wolf Cynergy Systems, Inc. Macromedia Flex Alliance Partner http://www.cynergysystems.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: 866-CYNERGY x85 > >> * 50% percent faster then SOAP or Webservice > > Not true with GZIP turned on. > > Most of the developers find AMF faster than SOAP/Webservices. That's > what I have seen. > > >> * Automatic object serialization/deserialization > > So does XML web services in Flex. > > I think, AMF serialization/deserialization happen at Flash Player(might > be native) level where as XML parsing in Flex is done by ActionScript. > > -abdul > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Dave Wolf > Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 12:42 PM > To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Open source AMF solutions that work with flex > > A few comments. > > > * Binary transport > > So is SOAP when you turn on GZIP compression in your container. And I > would argue that binary transmission can be a bad thing too. What if > a firewall used on a corporate environment has packet filtering turned > on. Does that firewall have an AMF filter and did the firewall admin > know what it was? I spent oodles of time working in CORBA. IIOP is a > binary protocol and I cant tell you how often we bumped intot his > issue in a true distributed application. We actually used to tunnel > the IIOP through HTTP a lot to avoid this. > > > * 50% percent faster then SOAP or Webservice > > Not true with GZIP turned on. > > > * Automatic object serialization/deserialization > > So does XML web services in Flex. > > > -- > Dave Wolf > Cynergy Systems, Inc. > Macromedia Flex Alliance Partner > http://www.cynergysystems.com > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Office: 866-CYNERGY x85 > > > > > > -abdul > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On > > Behalf Of Dave Wolf > > Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 12:29 PM > > To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Open source AMF solutions that work with > flex > > > > I do want to know why you're prefering AMF over HTTP or WebService. > > > > Just curious on the motivation there. > > > > -- > > Dave Wolf > > Cynergy Systems, Inc. > > Macromedia Flex Alliance Partner > > http://www.cynergysystems.com > > > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Office: 866-CYNERGY x85 > > > > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Clint Modien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I guess I should specify that they don't need to be open source at > > all they > > > could be 3rd party as well. (More than willing to pay for a > solution) > > > > > > > > > On 10/21/05, Clint Modien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Anyone get any open source amf solutions to work with flex? > > > > Looking into this due for the most part to the lack of amf > > support in the > > > > flex alpha release. I'm also guessing that this is what MM will > > release as > > > > the non enterprise version of flex. So I'm looking for > alternatives > > to > > > > webservices and httpservices. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Flexcoders Mailing List > > FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt > > Search Archives: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > -- > Flexcoders Mailing List > FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt > Search Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com > Yahoo! Groups Links > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/cd_AJB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/nhFolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
