RE: [flexcoders] Re: Shouldn't we use Flex to built website

[Uday M. Shankar]

I agree with hank…. Usability and User experience are often directly related to colors and fonts. I think User Interface is a different ball game all together. I have heard many developers debating over this… their point – what makes u think developers cant create sexy user friendly UIs…. They can…. For that matter I know some designers who are great developers too. But the point is FOCUS. In any work which involves technical input and creative input, it would be best if people focus on different areas to finally make one really productive output….. In my experience, when a developer is given the task of making the UI usable, they usually translate it directly to slick effects and jazzy colors. User experience is much beyond that. The industry is just waking up to that factor. But still there’s a long way to go for usability and user experience to be given its due importance.   As hank buckets it, programming, usability and design should be treated separately. In fact I would like to add information architecture to the list as well. Anyway, I guess we are straying away hereJ.  I talk too much… don’t i? ;)   From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of hank williams Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 11:25 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Shouldn't we use Flex to built website     On 6/26/06, Nick Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think you misunderstand me. I have nothing against flash sites. I'm referring to the poorly done ones where flash users were doing things merely because they now could, not because it was good design. I'm not saying anyone here falls into this category, but typically it was done by people who were solely developers and didn't have an ounce of design sense in their body, from my observations. My point is that Flex is a developer tool, and while some developers are pretty design savvy, most do not fall into that category so my fear is that if developers start using Flex to build sites, we'll be seeing a lot of sites springing up with lots of "neat" functionality with blurs and fades and slides and stuff, but zero usability and no quality user experience. Does that make more sense? Well, interestingly, I dont think "graphic designers" have any kind of corner on usability. There are three disciplines involved here, programming, interface design, and graphic design. Some, though few people are good at all three. I think the biggest crime though is the assumption that good graphic designers have some inherent understanding of human interaction. Of course I presume here when you say designer you mean graphic designer which is usually what people mean. But great human interface designers (eg bruce tognazini Jacob Nielsen) dont (perhaps rarely do) have any facility with graphic design and art in my experience. I for one am on the opposite end of the spectrum being decent in human interface and coding, but unable to make decent artwork. My point. Let a million flowers bloom. The tools are what they are. Making things easier will spawn lots of good stuff and lots of bad stuff. And so it goes. Regards Hank     On 6/25/06, Michael Schmalle < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > those who decide to use Flex to do website designs rank right with those who did all that other crap in the early days of flash with bouncing balls and forced site intros and such. I have no opinion on this subject whatsoever but.. Would like to point out that this comment is ridiculous. There have been many successful flash websites(In the right context for the right target audience), this is just plain ignorance. I guess you were one of those bouncing ball guys right? BTW, a statement with such force doesn't require a reply but I HAD TO :) Peace, Mike   On 6/25/06, Jignesh Dodiya < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: thanx all for reply and wish many other give their ideas on this Regards, Jignesh Dodiya.... -- What goes up, does come down.   __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web.    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___