You need to have companies know it's an option before they create the jobs?
On 10/10/06, DUANE NICKULL
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What drives learning/adoption is jobs. When there are Flex jobs, there will be Flex coders taking those jobs. The metrics I used for Perl/Java/Flex are not perfect but I have found this method to be very accurate in the past to predicting trends in the market. Given Perl and Java are both incumbent programming languages, the odds are stacked against Flex which is really a programming model/platform rather than a language but I wanted to go up against the languages on an even basis to see where Flex stacks up. The results are encouraging:
1. How many hits are there on Google:Perl: 195MMJava: 551MM (Winner)Flex: 74MM2. How many jobs have the keyword on Monster.com within 50 miles of Zip code 95110 ( San Jose)Perl: 360Java: 442 (Winner)Flex: 283. How many searches on the keywords on Overture.com August 2006Perl: 12,332Java: 192,000 (Winner)Flex: 31,964 (Yes - we beat Perl!!!)4. How many searches are returned on Google Blogsearch for the last month only:Perl: 531Java: 450Flex: 596 (Winner)5. How many books on Amazon.com does a keyword search turn up?Perl: 13,758Java: 38,657Flex: 45, 894 (Winner)Of course, this is not very scientific given java also means coffee and there are books on Google on Golf Flex. To me, the number of books and blog mentions is really indicative of a trend just starting to rise.Cheers!D"Speaking only for myself"Site - http://www.nickull.netMy Music - http://www.mix2r.com/
On 10-Oct-06, at 5:51 AM, Ray wrote:Matt,One of the best ways in my opinion to market Flex is by having Flexapplications in the wild.As a ColdFusion developer I am excited about the possibilities ofusing ColdFusion and Flex together. I do however think it would benice to have a few more CF Flex-centric articles and tutorialsavailable. The CF wizards that are available with Flex Builder aregreat but they do not quite get me where I want to go. I would like tosee an example application that includes security using cflogin. Afully functioning Flex + CF application such as cfpetstore would benice too.You have a pretty passionate and vocal community of ColdFusiondevelopers. Get us to be as equally vocal and passionate about Flex. Ithink that would help in marketing Flex a great deal.Ray--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com , "Matt Chotin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Hey guys, I'm trying to get a better statement of our marketing plansand what we're doing currently so you can see that we're not exactlysitting idle here. In the meantime, I hear you guys say that none ofyour friends tend to hear of Flex, but they know other technologies. Sowhere do they hear about other technologies? Are they reading certainpublications? Blogs? When they talk about other technologies do theyactually know what they're talking about or is it just repeating thebuzz?Matt________________________________From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] OnBehalf Of Tariq AhmedSent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 1:58 PMSubject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex MarketingI'd agree to that. The marketing effort seems to heavily rely on thedevelopment community doing that job for them. Things like labs andDevNet are KEY to maximizing technology adoption - but people need toknow about it in the first place.To Restate Adobe's Goal: 1 000 000 Flex Developers by 2010.Some HEAVY DUTY marketing is needed. It definitely made sense to capturethose who are most amiable to Flex (CF and Flash developers) first andgrow from there. I think someone blogged about this before; in that ofcourse Adobe related blogs are going to be heavy proponents for Adobetechnologies. But now it's time to penetrate into the rest of the world.In polling my heavy duty tech friends in other industries, they BARELYknow what Flex is. Many haven't heard of it. And some have heard of it,just because they heard me mention it.Awareness of the brand and technology needs to be more prevalent.Gimme a cool Flex decal and I'll put it on my car! :)Clint Modien wrote:I mentioned this @ the Silicon Valley Flex User Group meetingtheother day but I wanted to reiterate it here and see if I couldinvokea response from Adobe.
Mr. Mendels?
Where is the marketing for Flex? Why keep the most beautifulframework in the world for creating applications a secret? Wherearethe Visual Studio style banner adds everywhere. Where is thebuzz forit on Slashdot. Why arn't other developers in the world standingupand saying is creating applications really this easy!?!
I've seen the lights go on in a developers eyes when they getit.When they see what 5 lines of code can acomplish with Flex. Theygetexcited. Excitement sells licenses.
(Gets off his soapbox and points to it...) ... Thoughts?
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- Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex Marketing Brendan Meutzner
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