Isn't it just one FDS license per CPU? How does seats figure into it?

> And the license is that you need to pay for one
> FDS CPU license per tester seat

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Chotin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> FDS requirement first: it is a licensing requirement; it is not a
> technical requirement.  And the license is that you need to pay for one
> FDS CPU license per tester seat.  That license could be Departmental
> (list $6k) or Enterprise.  So if you're looking to create a tool that
> can be used for free by the testers, the automation framework is
> probably not for you.  But if you're just looking to avoid using QTP
> then this could give you a big head start.
> 
>  
> 
> We are working on documentation for writing an agent.  That has been
> slower to come out because it's primarily ISV/partners who are
> interested in building agents.  When the docs are ready we'll post them.
> 
>  
> 
> I think it is fair to say that playback is essentially what you need to
> support scripting, even if you don't need recording.  QTP for example
> records actions into scripts, then the tool plays the script back and we
> turn those into the playback commands.  You can do the same thing.
> Either you can write to the automation framework directly with events,
> or you could write some layer that takes your own scripting calls and
> generates the automation events for you.  The automation framework is
> written in AS and exposes classes, methods, and events, so it is capable
> of being used programmatically.
> 
>  
> 
> Matt
> 
>  
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of brian.knorr
> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 7:35 AM
> To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [flexcoders] Re: any interest in an alternative to QTP to
> automate Flex apps?
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Is there any documentation on building an adapter to use the
> automation packages? I browsed through the source of the classes in
> the automation package and it appears to support the record and
> playback model of testing, which in my opinion what you want to avoid.
> Can the automation package be leveraged for programmatically
> controlling the Flex components like you would do in a tool like
> Watir, Watij, or Jemmy? Is FDS absolutely required to build on top of
> this system? 
> 
> --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com>
> , "Matt Chotin" <mchotin@> wrote:
> >
> > I am not looking to derail any interest in you guys building
> > alternatives, but would like to point out that the Flex team did a
> large
> > amount of work to enable the kind of functionality you're looking for
> > (minus the tool). Check out the mx.automation packages and you'll see
> > the infrastructure that is in place to solve problems like using
> > semantic events instead of x/y coordinates, etc. Admittedly, this is
> > the portion that we consider the more interesting IP rather than the
> > plugin that enables QTP to leverage this functionality (and what you
> > need to pay to use). If you have FDS or are willing to invest money in
> > the APIs even if not in QTP itself, I'd encourage you to build on top
> of
> > this system. Interest from other vendors is increasing as well and I
> > hope that we'll see offerings in addition to QTP in the future (they
> > will be built using this framework). 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > As I stated previously we will continue to examine licensing options
> for
> > things like the automation package, but do not expect any changes in
> the
> > short term.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Matt
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ________________________________
> > 
> > From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com>
> ] On
> > Behalf Of brian.knorr
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 4:02 PM
> > To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > Subject: [flexcoders] Re: any interest in an alternative to QTP to
> > automate Flex apps?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I took a look at imacros...my only concern is that it uses WINCLICK to
> > automate flash apps. This means everything is x/y coordinate based. We
> > want to interact with the actual ui components, finding them by their
> > properties or type. For example here is a short snippet of a simple
> > test we are using...I added the comments in order to explain what is
> > going on:
> > 
> > //find the first ComboBox in the app
> > var comboBoxOperator:ComboBoxOperator = flexOperator.find(ComboBox) as
> > ComboBoxOperator;
> > 
> > //select the option with the specified label
> > //upon user selection the app fires an event that sets a label
> component
> > with the text 'You selected: X'
> > comboBoxOperator.select("MasterCard");
> > 
> > //find the label with the specified properties and assert the correct
> > selection was made
> > assertEquals("You selected:
> > MasterCard",LabelOperator(flexOperator.find({id:"myLabel"})).text);
> > 
> > Thoughts?
> > 
> > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com>
> > , "Allen Riddle" <ariddle@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I've posted on here before about this topic. I think this is
> something
> > > that lacks in the Flex community. Just curious if you or your
> company
> > > have looked at a product called imacros. I downloaded the demo and
> it
> > > was pretty decent. It's a lot cheaper than QTP. It also lets you
> > script
> > > out tests. I've also wondered if it was possible to get Ruby's Watir
> > > tool to work with Flex, that would be my first choice if so. Cool
> > > suggestion, we'd use it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > > From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com>
> > ]
> > On
> > > Behalf Of Simeon Bateman
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 3:56 PM
> > > To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > > Subject: Re: [flexcoders] any interest in an alternative to QTP to
> > > automate Flex apps?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I am interested in this. I had been playing with the thought of
> using
> > > the FA Bridge to allow you to use Selenium to test your
> applications.
> > > Then you could use the Firefox plugin to record our actions and test
> > the
> > > movie.
> > >
> > > Not sure how feasible it is but even that would start with having a
> > > testing framework in flex to tie into.
> > >
> > >
> > > simeon
> > >
> > > On 2/7/07, brian.knorr wundahwheel@
> > > <mailto:wundahwheel@ > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Automating functional tests is critical to the way we develop
> software
> > > at my company. And there are two big things that stop us from using
> > QTP.
> > >
> > > 1) It's record and playback - we want to write test scripts
> > > 2) It costs a lot of money - we want a tool that is free and
> community
> > > driven
> > >
> > > At my company we are writing several applications in Flex2 and are
> > > building out an as3 library that allows us to write test scripts in
> > > as3 to drive the Flex ui as if the user was interacting with it. If
> > > you are familiar with the Java Swing testing tool called Jemmy, it's
> > > very similar in design.
> > >
> > > Is there any interest out there for a tool like this? I am about to
> > > create a sourceforge project, but first wanted to get a feel for the
> > > need.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Brian
> > >
> >
>


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