For the record, I was very vocal about Flash's potential all those years ago as well (In 2004, I made this post http://www.mossyblog.com/archives/276.cfm). I'm not trying to stir the politics, but i even look at the CS3 sku's and ponder what the hell is going on? (keep it simple).
Flash has always been one of these pieces that I thought had so much more potential than what it has today, I mean you're right FLEX 1.0 was not only ahead of the game - but - pre-AJAX movement, so there was enormous potential here and it's why since i'm in an openly honest mood I hate the very though LiveCycle + FLEX are living side by side another as I get that feeling again "Here we go, different name, numbers stay about the same". (Yes I know I'm now being negative and being a Microsoft employee it's now sounding like FUD, but in 2004 I had these feelings and I was right, 2007 they are back, difference is i have MS Logo on my back). I love FLEX, just hate the distractions around it. On 4/20/07, mvbaffa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Adobe constructed a great product. The conception and architecture are excelent, but the comercial strategy is not so good. Macromedia had something like 4 years ahead of Microsoft, since Flex 1.5, that was a very good product too. Macromedia insisted to to seel it for US$18 k, nobody bought it !!!! Microsoft at that time did not exist in RIA Market. Then Adobe came and Flex became more accessible. But Adobe charges FDS in US$ 20K and does not pay attention to .NET developers. Well it seems to me that this is another big mistake. if Adobe continues with this kind of comercial strategy, i am afraid that our beloved Flex will loose the race. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com <flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com>, "Scott Barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 4/20/07, Michael Schmalle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I have to put my 2 cents down for prosperity sake. > > > 4 > which is important :) > > All you people that live in cities and constantly sicken yourselves by > > your own pollution, need to live on a mountain for a couple years, look back > > at what you say and see how hilarious it all is. > > > > I live near a desert? does that' coun't for isolation and freedom of > thoughts? (Sorry in Australia, our mountains are hard to come by at times). > > > > > How many times can the battle of north and south be fought and... won? > > :) > > > > Until East & West figure out it's time to join in, and then we go on > Springer... i got dibs on the chair throwing... > > > > Listening to people engrossed in the politics of banter on the internet > > is much more funny than turning on the TV these days. > > > > They still have TV? you mean YouTube + TV can co-exist? next thing you'll > say Silverlight and Flash can co-exist.. pft crazy talk. > > > > Scott, your just a person that likes getting people talking regardless of > > the side your on. Your good at it to. > > > > Oh stop, you say that to all the Evangelists.. now you're making me blush > *blush in ascii art*. > > > > As far as Microsoft's world domination, I doubt it. No one ever 'wins' > > forever. I think most of the resistance you feel around your posts is > > exactly what Dave Wolf said... now theres options, people want choice. I > > guess that is what the market and developers 'against' Microsoft have been > > saying forever... WE WANT CHOICE! > > > > Watch what you wish for, you just may get it... > > > > I think that is what being human is all about. > > > > Peace, Mike > > > > If I didn't have leg cramps right about now, i'd stand and applaud you :) > (Seriously - Politics is bound to happen when you have to large corporations > saying to all of you - try my stuff, no try mine, nooo try mine... and so > on.. Adobe & Microsoft compete on a number of levels while at the same time > - this will freak the kids out in the front row - without Microsoft, Adobe > couldn't of gotten to where it is today. Without Microsoft Flash's > penetration numbers wouldn't be where they are/were today (but its ok, no > thanks required for the Updates / Default installs we put on the box when we > ship etc). I should also mention sites like Honda, MySpace, YouTube and > Movie Sites etc were also strong drivers in this space more so then us. Yet > if i say this outloud then we could sober up a bit and no1 likes a buzz > killer ;) > > Point: Lighten up folks, it's just technology - or should I say Silverlight, > Light up the web! :) > > > > > -- > Regards, > > Scott Barnes > Developer Evangelist > Microsoft - whom wrote this with GMAIL.. shhh, don't tell HQ or they'll dock > my pay ...as Hotmail and GMAIl cannot co-exist at all! it's in the rules > alongside Silverlight and Flash :) >
-- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com
