So I'm one of the Product Managers and we've said this repeatedly on the forums, if you have a use-case and the price is an issue, talk to our sales reps and see if something can be worked out. We're not trying to be in the business of ripping anyone off, and we believe we have an offering that is useful and compelling. We are always evaluating pricing and distributions and will continue to do so, but I have no news about changes right now. Matt
________________________________ From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of simonjpalmer Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 10:47 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Re: FDS licensing Oh boy, do I feel your pain... 1) Without breaking the licensing agreement I don't see any way round it 2) It is a potentially very valuable piece of technology, but I am increasingly questioning it, especially as it is is largely unproven and still pretty wobbly (and confusing). It will be interesting to see if Adobe have sharpened it all up with LCDS which is currently in beta. I hope so. meanwhile I am engineering its demise in our solution as soon as we have the absolute necessity to go above a single CPU. 3) There are some alternatives floating around. I suspect that a lot of people (myself included) will go back to their server roots and handle this all through HTTP. If you have any existing investment in that technology on your server it is almost certainly worth pursuing that route. FDS/LCDS promises a lot but between the pricing and the opacity it is a hard call to make. Personally I think that the CPU based pricing is ridiculous and is going to prevent the broad uptake of what could be a real differentiator for Adobe of they got it right. Like you I have an impossible task justifying the cost and I can't just pass it on to my customers so it cuts directly into my margin. I wouldn't mind so much if it was solid and proven, but it isn't. This whole problem stands out like a sore thumb for me in what is otherwise a truly excellent platform. Or maybe Adobe are just going to make it all open source and therefore un-licensable. With Microsoft looming, that may not be such a silly proposition. There have been other similar discussions on this board but nobody from Adobe has had much to say about it. I suspect talking about pricing on a technical board such as this is a no-no. However for those of us wearing architect and technologist hats it is a very relevant point and I'd love to hear from Product Management. Simon --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com> , "johnypboyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm having a real tough time justifying the licensing costs of FDS. I > know it's free for single CPU, but the big jump (10k/cpu) for a > multi-cpu license effectively kills this for me. > > I'm curious about: > 1) How other folks have got around this? > 2) Or do you just not use FDS mostly? > 3) Or any other cheaper alternatives? > > thanx > -jb >