George:

<additional commentary>
We are not sitting around waiting for Adobe to hand us a fix. We are 
doing what needs to be done to get the applications finished.

We like Flex, but if the level of effort to work around bugs becomes 
so time consuming as to make it easier or faster to switch to 
something less buggy, what do you think we should do?

Personally I think that my comments, if internalized by Adobe, can be 
beneficial to them as well as us developers. 

Regarding this specific issue, I suspect that the folks at Adobe took 
one look at the problem, determined that it was a problem (which was 
good), but then made an internal decision to postpone anyone looking 
for the solution until after the new release comes out of beta. I 
also believe that because of the discussion here (specifically 
comments by Alex Haruri), and in another thread that it was 
determined to be more of an enhancement than a bug fix, which pushes 
it way down the priority list.

In summary I think we do a disservice to ourselves, and to Adobe if 
we "go silently into the good night..." by working around problems 
and not holding Adobe's feet to the fire to fix problems in their 
code.
</additional commentary>

Paul

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> [personal thoughts]
> Working on Flex projects you have to overcome some 'bug' troubles 
> yourself. Adobe developers couldn't has enough time to help 
everybody to 
> find solutions, they have to work for tasks depending on priority 
like 
> all software development teams.
> 
> Nothing can be perfect we have to trade-off. Performance can be a 
> problem, but if there's a performance problem, you can still change 
your 
> interface design to make it more acceptable for end users.
> 
> Your developers are lucky to work with you even don't have to waste 
time 
> for sorting functions. I have to find trade-off solutions more than 
> these small tasks, even have to think about how to change 
interface, and 
> defend for myself. End users and bosses wouldn't care where's the 
> problem, what they know is if there's a problem, it's my problem, I 
have 
> to fix it or make it better at least.
> 
> For SDK code itself, I think we should let Adobe developers to 
judge 
> whether it's a simple fix or not. They could have reasons we 
wouldn't know.
> 
> George
> 
> 
> 
> aceoohay wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > The good news is I believe that the folks at Adobe are convinced 
this
> > is a bug.
> > 
> > The bad news is I was told that they aren't going to fix it 
anytime
> > soon, what with the new release coming out and the fact that 
there is
> > an "easy" workaround and all.
> > 
> > <opinion>
> > It is my opinion, after looking at the code that generates the 
error,
> > it would be a relatively simple fix. I believe that all that 
would be
> > needed is in the routine that determines the data type to sort on 
it
> > should ignore nulls. As it loops through the column to find the 
data
> > type should it find no non-null elements, it doesn't need to sort
> > anything.
> > 
> > The only performance impact would be on columns that contain lots 
of
> > nulls, but I would rather have my users wait a few milliseconds
> > rather than get an error, or have my developers waste time adding
> > sort handlers for each column in each datagrid. Also I am sure 
that
> > the sort handlers have a substantial performance impact at 
runtime.
> > 
> > What I am trying to say is I believe that Adobe has made a 
mistake in
> > offloading a significant amount of work onto developers, and has a
> > poorer product, when with a small effort they can solve the 
problem.
> > </opinion>
> > 
> > Paul
> >
>


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