At 08:54 AM 6/14/2007, Philip J Gentile wrote:
>i would terminate the antenna connection into a 50 ohm load to measure
>noise.
>
>phil AB2JL

When making noise power measurements one has to be aware of the fact 
that the instantaneous power can vary quite widely.  The noise is a 
normally distributed (gaussian) process.  The power you would 
measure, averaged over a very long time, corresponds to the variance 
(or in voltage terms, the voltage is the standard deviation).  In any 
given instantaneous measurement, though, you could be 2,3, 4, or more 
standard deviations away from the mean.

What you're really measuring is the average of the variance of the 
incoming samples, and that average has a variance too..

With an analog meter with time constant much greater than the 
measurement bandwidth (the usual situation... meter might have a 
"video" bandwidth of 10-20 Hz, measuring the noise out of a 3kHz IF), 
you won't see the deviations (they'll have "averaged out".. by the 
ratio sqrt(VideoBW/ResBW))

However, in a FFT type analyzer, you tend not to have this averaging, 
so the variation in "bin amplitude" from buffer to buffer (frame to 
frame) can be pretty large.  If you have a "peak detector" type 
system, it aggravates this, because if you wait long enough, 
eventually, one of those 5 sigma events comes along and bumps that bin way up.


James Lux, P.E.
Spacecraft Radio Frequency Subsystems Group
Flight Communications Systems Section
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Mail Stop 161-213
4800 Oak Grove Drive
Pasadena CA 91109
tel: (818)354-2075
fax: (818)393-6875 



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