Create a new database since you are using a new version of PowerSDR.  Do
not do an import.

-Tim
----


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I notice that the latest beta of power SDR uses almost twice the CPU
percentage as ver 1.8. Also, the panadapter jumps around strangely on
the
beta. Any thoughts? Thanks and 73,

David A. Eisenberg WA3HVR
 
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Today's Topics:

   1. qsy with a previous split anomaly (FireBrick)
   2. High Rx/Tx audio (Charles Greene)
   3. Re: Spam:  qsy with a previous split anomaly (Bob Tracy)
   4. Re: High Rx/Tx audio (Eric Wachsmann)
   5. added memory (FireBrick)
   6. Re: added memory (Charles Greene)
   7. CAT OUTput (Jim Lux)
   8. Re: CAT OUTput (Jim McLester)
   9. WARNING WARNING WARNING Platform SDK uprade on Windows    XP SP2
      (Robert McGwier)
  10. Re: WARNING WARNING WARNING Platform SDK uprade on Windows XP
      SP2 (Carl Vangsness)
  11. CW fix (Mark Amos)
  12. Re: Platform SDK uprade on Windows        XP SP2 (Steve Kirk
(KW5TX))
  13. Re: WARNING WARNING WARNING Platform SDK uprade on Windows XP
      SP2 (Mike Naruta)
  14. Re: [dttsp-linux] WARNING WARNING WARNING Platform SDK uprade
      on Windows XP SP2 (k5nwa)
  15. Re: WARNING WARNING WARNING Platform SDK uprade on
WindowsXP
      SP2 (n3evl)
  16. SUCCESS : Using an Apple Computers with the SDR -5000 (michael)
  17. Re: WARNING WARNING WARNING Platform SDK uprade on WindowsXP
      SP2 (Robert McGwier)
  18. Re: CAT OUTput (Bob Tracy)
  19. Re: SUCCESS : Using an Apple Computers with the SDR       -5000
      (Robert McGwier)
  20. Re: SUCCESS : Using an Apple Computers with the SDR -5000
      (Dudley Hurry)
  21. WARNING WARNING WARNING Platform SDK uprade on WindowsXP SP2
      (Brad A. Steffler)
  22. signal flow diagrams ? (a.groff)
  23. Re: WARNING WARNING WARNING Platform SDK uprade on WindowsXP
      SP2 (Alan NV8A)
  24. Latest Production Update? (Jim Cox)
  25. Re: WARNING WARNING WARNING Platform SDK uprade on
WindowsXP
      SP2 (Ray Andrews, K9DUR)
  26. Re: Latest Production Update? (Ken N9VV)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:51:11 -0500
From: "FireBrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Flexradio] qsy with a previous split anomaly
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,        "FlexRadio List"
        <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
        reply-type=original

I've seen this twice today, and just tested it again.

I DID NOT EXPERIENCE THIS PREVIOUSLY.

dxLabs latest versions. Commander directing SDR over a parallel port.
flex SDR1000 svn 1445

I don't know which is causing this.

I had used Spot Collector to qsy to a cluster spot that was operating
split
SC/Commander set the PWSDR vfo's correctly.
vfo a to 14080.6 and vfo b to 14081.6 (both vfos were changed to DIGL
(rtty)

mode)

I could not hear this stations and left the rig in this state.

I then used Spot Collector to qsy to simplex of 14253.0
Which is did not do correctly.
It left vfo a at 14080.6 (digl mode) and changed vfo b to the simplex
usb 
frequency of 14253.0 (USB mode)

And...obviously left the PWSDR program in Split Mode.

I repeated this a number of times.


-----------------------------------------------------
Flatulence (n.) the emergency vehicle that picks you up after you are
run 
over by a steamroller.
-----------------------------------------------------

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webcams at http://76.16.160.118:8080/
weather at http://hhweather.webhop.org




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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:19:51 -0400
From: Charles Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Flexradio] High Rx/Tx audio
To: "FlexRadio List" <[email protected]>
Message-ID:
        
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

hi,

I just downloaded SVN: 1445.  The Rx audio level is 110 dB higher 
than normal (the last SVN, v1.9 and v1.91), and the Tx audio so high 
that it over drives the PA when the Tx gain is set at the lowest 
value which is -40.  Normal setting is about a -5 dB.  Only problems I
noted.

73,  Chas W1CG 




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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:26:42 -0500
From: "Bob Tracy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Spam:  qsy with a previous split anomaly
To: "FireBrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        "FlexRadio List" <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"

This is a bug Dave and I are currently discussing.  It has to do with a
major difference in the way the Kenwood commands interpret Split and the
way
the SDR1K/F5K actually work.  A TS-2000 has two completely independent
VFO's, you can transmit on A or B and receive on A or B.  The FlexRadios
always receive on A and can transmit on A or B.

The temporary work around is to simply take the Flex out of Split mode
before you use Spot Collector in simplex.  You cannot take the radio out
of
split mode from Commander at this time.  Dave and I will work this out
as
time permits.

73,

Bob K5KDN

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of FireBrick
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 1:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; FlexRadio List
Subject: Spam: [Flexradio] qsy with a previous split anomaly


I've seen this twice today, and just tested it again.

I DID NOT EXPERIENCE THIS PREVIOUSLY.

dxLabs latest versions. Commander directing SDR over a parallel port.
flex SDR1000 svn 1445

I don't know which is causing this.

I had used Spot Collector to qsy to a cluster spot that was operating
split
SC/Commander set the PWSDR vfo's correctly.
vfo a to 14080.6 and vfo b to 14081.6 (both vfos were changed to DIGL
(rtty)
mode)

I could not hear this stations and left the rig in this state.

I then used Spot Collector to qsy to simplex of 14253.0
Which is did not do correctly.
It left vfo a at 14080.6 (digl mode) and changed vfo b to the simplex
usb
frequency of 14253.0 (USB mode)

And...obviously left the PWSDR program in Split Mode.

I repeated this a number of times.


-----------------------------------------------------
Flatulence (n.) the emergency vehicle that picks you up after you are
run
over by a steamroller.
-----------------------------------------------------

Bill H. in Chicagoland
webcams at http://76.16.160.118:8080/
weather at http://hhweather.webhop.org


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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:26:39 -0500
From: "Eric Wachsmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] High Rx/Tx audio
To: "'Charles Greene'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,     "'FlexRadio List'"
        <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"

For now, I would revert to 1443 until we give further word.  We are
aware
that there is a problem with the latest.  Some unintended side effect of
other bug fixes.


Eric Wachsmann
FlexRadio Systems

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> radio.biz] On Behalf Of Charles Greene
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 2:20 PM
> To: FlexRadio List
> Subject: [Flexradio] High Rx/Tx audio
> 
> hi,
> 
> I just downloaded SVN: 1445.  The Rx audio level is 110 dB higher
> than normal (the last SVN, v1.9 and v1.91), and the Tx audio so high
> that it over drives the PA when the Tx gain is set at the lowest
> value which is -40.  Normal setting is about a -5 dB.  Only problems I
> noted.
> 
> 73,  Chas W1CG
> 
> 
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:06:01 -0500
From: "FireBrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Flexradio] added memory
To: "FlexRadio List" <[email protected]>,
        <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
        reply-type=original

Newegg just delivered 2gig of additional memory for my pent 4 3.2gig 
machine.
Total of 3 gigs of memory now.
Everything runs faster

(newegg had a promo last week) I think it's still running if you need 
memory.


-----------------------------------------------------
The more beautiful the woman is who loves you, the easier it is to leave
her

with no hard feelings.
-----------------------------------------------------

Bill H. in Chicagoland
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weather at http://hhweather.webhop.org




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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 17:17:31 -0400
From: Charles Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] added memory
To: FireBrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,      "FlexRadio List"
        <[email protected]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID:
        
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

Surprise, suprise.

C


At 04:06 PM 8/16/2007, FireBrick wrote:
>Newegg just delivered 2gig of additional memory for my pent 4 3.2gig
>machine.
>Total of 3 gigs of memory now.
>Everything runs faster
>
>(newegg had a promo last week) I think it's still running if you need
>memory.
>
>
>-----------------------------------------------------
>The more beautiful the woman is who loves you, the easier it is to
leave
her
>with no hard feelings.
>-----------------------------------------------------
>
>Bill H. in Chicagoland
>webcams at http://76.16.160.118:8080/
>weather at http://hhweather.webhop.org
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:18:28 -0700
From: Jim Lux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Flexradio] CAT OUTput
To: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

here's an idea..
What if PowerSDR emitted CATlike commands, specifically things like 
frequency, when the user changes a parameter.  As I understand it, 
something like a SteppIR controller, which needs to know frequency, 
polls the radio to ask it every second or so.  If one had multiple 
devices that needed to know frequency, this could get pretty dicey, 
since there would need to be some sort of arbitration.  But what if 
the radio broadcast it's frequency (and mode?) changes.

Obviously, in a totally separated UI/Radio sort of architecture, this 
is pretty straightforward, since the UI would emit the "tune here" 
commands, and they would go to whoever needed to know it (i.e. the 
radio and the antenna).  And, they'd presumably be in actual 
frequency, as opposed to some internal thing, like DDS frequency, 
although, this brings up some interesting questions if you have 
multiple subreceivers tuned to different places.

James Lux, P.E.
Spacecraft Radio Frequency Subsystems Group
Flight Communications Systems Section
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Mail Stop 161-213
4800 Oak Grove Drive
Pasadena CA 91109
tel: (818)354-2075
fax: (818)393-6875 





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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 16:57:23 -0500
From: "Jim McLester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] CAT OUTput
To: <[email protected]>, "Jim Lux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
        reply-type=original

This should be quite easy when the code gets re-organized and
re-structured.

Almost every program I have been involved in has become spaghetti-ized a
bit

as it developed.  Most particularly when it involved a cutting edge in
one 
area or another. A learning curve is in effect!  SDR is certainly
cutting 
edge and if the effect hasn't shown itself by now the programmers are
even 
better than I recognize them to be.

Jim - W4YXU



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Lux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 4:18 PM
Subject: [Flexradio] CAT OUTput


> here's an idea..
> What if PowerSDR emitted CATlike commands, specifically things like
> frequency, when the user changes a parameter.  As I understand it,
> something like a SteppIR controller, which needs to know frequency,
> polls the radio to ask it every second or so.  If one had multiple
> devices that needed to know frequency, this could get pretty dicey,
> since there would need to be some sort of arbitration.  But what if
> the radio broadcast it's frequency (and mode?) changes.
>
> Obviously, in a totally separated UI/Radio sort of architecture, this
> is pretty straightforward, since the UI would emit the "tune here"
> commands, and they would go to whoever needed to know it (i.e. the
> radio and the antenna).  And, they'd presumably be in actual
> frequency, as opposed to some internal thing, like DDS frequency,
> although, this brings up some interesting questions if you have
> multiple subreceivers tuned to different places.
>
> James Lux, P.E.
> Spacecraft Radio Frequency Subsystems Group
> Flight Communications Systems Section
> Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Mail Stop 161-213
> 4800 Oak Grove Drive
> Pasadena CA 91109
> tel: (818)354-2075
> fax: (818)393-6875
>
>
>
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> FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
>
>
>
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 18:08:51 -0400
From: Robert McGwier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Flexradio] WARNING WARNING WARNING Platform SDK uprade on
        Windows XP SP2
To: Flex Radio <[email protected]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED],  High Performance Software
Defined
        Radio Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

In the last two days,  I have been pushing out some code with bug fixes 
to PowerSDR.  In several cases,  people would report new bugs,  Eric W 
and I would look, and we could find not one thing wrong.  Eric would 
rebuild and the code would work as expected.

We did several tests after wasting half a day looking for a "bug I 
introduced" into the Equalizer and meter and could not find a single 
thing done that related.  Eric compiles, and it works.

Then I remembered.  A few nights ago I downloaded and installed the new 
Platform SDK from MS.  That was the bug I introduced.  It has replaced 
all of the interop libraries used by MS VS 2003.  I was not smart enough

to do it on one computer.  I did it on every computer where I run MSVS 
2003.  They all generate broken, nearly working code.  This cost us an 
entire day on getting 1.10 out the door.

My apologies for my dumb mistake.  If you work on Microslop with their 
broken tools, do not introduce their new bugs if you can help it.  If 
anyone knows how to back this crap out completely, let me know PRIVATELY

(wait, besides dumping MS for Linux).

Bob
N4HY

-- 
AMSAT Director and VP Engineering. Member: ARRL, AMSAT-DL,
TAPR, Packrats, NJQRP, QRP ARCI, QCWA, FRC. ARRL SDR WG Chair
"If you're going to be crazy, you have to get paid for it or
else you're going to be locked up." Hunter S. Thompson



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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 18:41:59 -0500
From: Carl Vangsness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] WARNING WARNING WARNING Platform SDK uprade
        on Windows XP SP2
To: Robert McGwier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Flex Radio <[email protected]>,
        [EMAIL PROTECTED],      High Performance Software
Defined
Radio
        Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Bob no need for ANY apologies. The speed with which all of you have 
attacked problems is totally without comparison. Us beginning hackers 
very much appreciate all the effort you have all put into this product. 
I am to the point that when I see an issue (we aren't allowed to use the

word "bug" or "problem" in my industry), I don't try to report it. By 
the time I'm done typing, someone else already has and the issue is well

on the way to being fixed!

Let those without sin cast the first ..... - you all remember the quote.

73 es many tnx, Carl WC0V

Robert McGwier wrote:
> In the last two days,  I have been pushing out some code with bug
fixes 
> to PowerSDR.  In several cases,  people would report new bugs,  Eric W

> and I would look, and we could find not one thing wrong.  Eric would 
> rebuild and the code would work as expected.
> 
> We did several tests after wasting half a day looking for a "bug I 
> introduced" into the Equalizer and meter and could not find a single 
> thing done that related.  Eric compiles, and it works.
> 
> Then I remembered.  A few nights ago I downloaded and installed the
new 
> Platform SDK from MS.  That was the bug I introduced.  It has replaced

> all of the interop libraries used by MS VS 2003.  I was not smart
enough 
> to do it on one computer.  I did it on every computer where I run MSVS

> 2003.  They all generate broken, nearly working code.  This cost us an

> entire day on getting 1.10 out the door.
> 
> My apologies for my dumb mistake.  If you work on Microslop with their

> broken tools, do not introduce their new bugs if you can help it.  If 
> anyone knows how to back this crap out completely, let me know
PRIVATELY 
> (wait, besides dumping MS for Linux).
> 
> Bob
> N4HY
> 



------------------------------

Message: 11
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 19:44:49 -0400
From: "Mark Amos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Flexradio] CW fix
To: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Hey, I saw in the alpha svn log that the third party CW issues were
resolved, and checked it out.  Now 
it works with the CWX keyer, my Com1 connected vibroplex and CWType on a
virtual comm port!!   
 
The only oddness I saw was that CWX requires Iambic to be turned off to
operate correctly - but I can 
live with that!
 
Thanks!
 
Mark




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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 18:53:28 -0500
From: "Steve Kirk (KW5TX)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Platform SDK uprade on Windows XP SP2
To: Robert McGwier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Eric Wachsmann
        <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Flex Radio <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

You guys work under pressure...without a net...in the heat of the 
spotlight.\
And even tho I whine from time to time...I am amazed by you folks.
It's a different breed that lives and breathes CODE like you guys...I 
could never do it.

thanks to You and Eric for all you do :)

keep rockin
kw5tx

Robert McGwier wrote:
> In the last two days,  I have been pushing out some code with bug
fixes 
> to PowerSDR.  In several cases,  people would report new bugs,  Eric W

> and I would look, and we could find not one thing wrong.  Eric would 
> rebuild and the code would work as expected.
>
> We did several tests after wasting half a day looking for a "bug I 
> introduced" into the Equalizer and meter and could not find a single 
> thing done that related.  Eric compiles, and it works.
>
> Then I remembered.  A few nights ago I downloaded and installed the
new 
> Platform SDK from MS.  That was the bug I introduced.  It has replaced

> all of the interop libraries used by MS VS 2003.  I was not smart
enough 
> to do it on one computer.  I did it on every computer where I run MSVS

> 2003.  They all generate broken, nearly working code.  This cost us an

> entire day on getting 1.10 out the door.
>
> My apologies for my dumb mistake.  If you work on Microslop with their

> broken tools, do not introduce their new bugs if you can help it.  If 
> anyone knows how to back this crap out completely, let me know
PRIVATELY 
> (wait, besides dumping MS for Linux).
>
> Bob
> N4HY
>
>   



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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 20:09:47 -0400
From: Mike Naruta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] WARNING WARNING WARNING Platform SDK uprade
        on Windows XP SP2
To: Robert McGwier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Flex Radio <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Hey, we knew the job was dangerous when we took it!


The alphas are the bleeding edge.  The cartoon
reminds us that there may be imperfections.  If
we want comfort, we'll use the betas.


Keep up the good work Bob!



Mike - AA8K



Robert McGwier wrote:
>
> 
> My apologies for my dumb mistake.  If you work on Microslop with their

> broken tools, do not introduce their new bugs if you can help it.  If 
> anyone knows how to back this crap out completely, let me know
PRIVATELY 
> (wait, besides dumping MS for Linux).
> 
> Bob
> N4HY
> 



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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 19:29:12 -0500
From: k5nwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] [dttsp-linux] WARNING WARNING WARNING
        Platform SDK uprade on Windows XP SP2
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [email protected]
Message-ID:
        
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

At 05:08 PM 8/16/2007, you wrote:

>Then I remembered. A few nights ago I downloaded and installed the new
>Platform SDK from MS. That was the bug I introduced. It has replaced
>all of the interop libraries used by MS VS 2003. I was not smart enough
>to do it on one computer. I did it on every computer where I run MSVS
>2003. They all generate broken, nearly working code. This cost us an
>entire day on getting 1.10 out the door.
>
>Bob
>N4HY

Sure, blame it on Microsoft, we all know the truth, Microsoft would 
not put out buggy code.

I trust them implicitly, oh wait all five my PC's are on Linux except 
one, I wonder why?



Cecil
K5NWA
www.softrockradio.org www.qrpradio.com

"Blessed are the cracked, for they shall let in the light." 




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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 20:35:46 -0400
From: "n3evl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] WARNING WARNING WARNING Platform SDK uprade
        on      WindowsXP SP2
To: "Robert McGwier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,       "Flex Radio"
        <[email protected]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED],  High Performance Software
Defined
        Radio Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
        reply-type=original

Bob,

You might want to check your LIB and INCLUDE environment variables to
see if

they point to any sub-folders under the <platform sdk install folder>.
It's

been a while since I last installed the platform sdk but I seem to
remember 
it lets you choose the folder and then you hook your development
environment

to it via the above mentioned items.  Of course this sounds too simple
to be

all there is to it;)  If this is how it's set up you may just be able to

reinstall the older sdk and point to that folder hierarchy instead.

Pete, N3EVL


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert McGwier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Flex Radio" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "High Performance Software Defined
Radio 
Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 6:08 PM
Subject: [Flexradio] WARNING WARNING WARNING Platform SDK uprade on 
WindowsXP SP2


> In the last two days,  I have been pushing out some code with bug
fixes
> to PowerSDR.  In several cases,  people would report new bugs,  Eric W
> and I would look, and we could find not one thing wrong.  Eric would
> rebuild and the code would work as expected.
>
> We did several tests after wasting half a day looking for a "bug I
> introduced" into the Equalizer and meter and could not find a single
> thing done that related.  Eric compiles, and it works.
>
> Then I remembered.  A few nights ago I downloaded and installed the
new
> Platform SDK from MS.  That was the bug I introduced.  It has replaced
> all of the interop libraries used by MS VS 2003.  I was not smart
enough
> to do it on one computer.  I did it on every computer where I run MSVS
> 2003.  They all generate broken, nearly working code.  This cost us an
> entire day on getting 1.10 out the door.
>
> My apologies for my dumb mistake.  If you work on Microslop with their
> broken tools, do not introduce their new bugs if you can help it.  If
> anyone knows how to back this crap out completely, let me know
PRIVATELY
> (wait, besides dumping MS for Linux).
>
> Bob
> N4HY
>
> -- 
> AMSAT Director and VP Engineering. Member: ARRL, AMSAT-DL,
> TAPR, Packrats, NJQRP, QRP ARCI, QCWA, FRC. ARRL SDR WG Chair
> "If you're going to be crazy, you have to get paid for it or
> else you're going to be locked up." Hunter S. Thompson
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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:00:14 -0400
From: "michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Flexradio] SUCCESS : Using an Apple Computers with the SDR
        -5000
To: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

I am happy to report that I have been successful at running the Flex
5000
with a new APPLE 24 inch  Intel Imac.  I am doing this using Apple's
beta
version of  bootcamp posted on their website and Microsofts Vista
Premium
(though Vista Home should also work).  I am running the Control Panel in
the
Normal Mode as opposed to Level 1 and most importantly I have TEMPORARY
disabled in the Windows System Device Manager my ethernet controller
(both
wireless and cable). This latter move seems to have resolved all my
issues
with the console locking up. I am able to run at 192Khz with a buffer of
1024 . This is hardly a major inconvience if one is prepared not to use
the
internet at the same time as using the radio. In my case no problem
because
I have a second computer here   I would appreciate knowing  if anyone
else
has a success at interfacing their SDR to the Apple intel series of
computers.. Ah! the pleasure of  an iMac NO computer fan noise!
Keeping my
fingers crossed. 

Mike VE3BGE
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Message: 17
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:05:46 -0400
From: Robert McGwier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] WARNING WARNING WARNING Platform SDK uprade
        on WindowsXP SP2
To: n3evl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Flex Radio <[email protected]>,
        [EMAIL PROTECTED],      High Performance Software
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n3evl wrote:
> Bob,
> 
> You might want to check your LIB and INCLUDE environment variables to 
> see if they point to any sub-folders under the <platform sdk install 
> folder>.  It's been a while since I last installed the platform sdk
but 
> I seem to remember it lets you choose the folder and then you hook
your 
> development environment to it via the above mentioned items.  Of
course 
> this sounds too simple to be all there is to it;)  If this is how it's

> set up you may just be able to reinstall the older sdk and point to
that 
> folder hierarchy instead.
> 
> Pete, N3EVL
> 
> 


Actually, it is right on the money Pete.  When Platform SDK installs it 
has a big red X and asks are you really sure you want to change your 
environment variables.  I MIGHT have been dumb and said, sure why not.

I have uninstalled the Platform SDK Windows Server 2003 (R2) [this is 
supposed to cover Windows XP SP2 where the older platform SDK DID NOT as

well as Vista].  It definitely broke the interop (link between languages

in our case,  between C and C#).

I will uninstall MSVS Studio 2003 Enterprise-Architect provided to me by

work and install it again and ALLOW IT to set the environment variables.

Bob


-- 
AMSAT Director and VP Engineering. Member: ARRL, AMSAT-DL,
TAPR, Packrats, NJQRP, QRP ARCI, QCWA, FRC. ARRL SDR WG Chair
"If you're going to be crazy, you have to get paid for it or
else you're going to be locked up." Hunter S. Thompson



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Message: 18
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:04:08 -0500
From: "Bob Tracy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] CAT OUTput
To: "Jim Lux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"

That's basically what occurs in the Icom CI-V Transceiver Mode, the
radio
sends out frequency and mode info when the user makes changes.  The
problem
is that the listening device (tuner, antenna, rotor, etc.) doesn't know
the
radio's status until the user makes a change unless the using device
also
polls on startup or at some interval.  The ability to broadcast should
certainly be an option and one I've considered putting into the current
CAT
code since there are at least two logging programs I know of that
require
it.

Along those same lines, I've been collecting data for the last couple of
months, in support of a new external hardware device interface, on as
many
of the popular devices where I can find published interface data.  It's
a
real mixed bag ranging from a custom command language on a dedicated
serial
interface to units that will accept every interface/command language
that is
currently used in amateur equipment.

Sadly, almost all of the equipment out there today requires the use of a
serial interface, just when we (and the mobo makers), thought it was
going
away.  The interface could be an I2C to Serial converter on the FlexWire
connector on a FLEX5000A or a computer hardware port on either the SDR1K
or
FLEX5000.  There are a number of possibilities to be explored.

Briefly, the approach I'm taking in my prototype code is to let the user
assign external devices to ports and select any other ports that need to
share information with that particular device and, if needed, in what
order
it is shared.  An external XML library holds the translation information
to
get from what the device understands to a common command language in the
software (the radio API).  This external device interface talks to the
radio
via TCP.  I had originally thought it might have to talk to CAT and then
CAT
would talk to the radio but I think the command set required for any one
device is small enough to embed it in the translator library.

Some of this code is working now, some is just a fig newton of my warped
imagination.  The TCP to Serial Bridge is working thanks to groundwork
done
much earlier by Phil Covington.  The new, standalone CAT Server is
working
well enough to give me a warm fuzzy feeling that the concept is sound.
The
.NET 2.n+ serial port classes are working very well.  I'm in the process
of
writing device emulators that run on my laptop so I can test the
interface
code.  Progess is slow but it is happening.

These are exciting times!

73,

Bob K5KDN




-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Lux
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 4:18 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Flexradio] CAT OUTput


here's an idea..
What if PowerSDR emitted CATlike commands, specifically things like
frequency, when the user changes a parameter.  As I understand it,
something like a SteppIR controller, which needs to know frequency,
polls the radio to ask it every second or so.  If one had multiple
devices that needed to know frequency, this could get pretty dicey,
since there would need to be some sort of arbitration.  But what if
the radio broadcast it's frequency (and mode?) changes.

Obviously, in a totally separated UI/Radio sort of architecture, this
is pretty straightforward, since the UI would emit the "tune here"
commands, and they would go to whoever needed to know it (i.e. the
radio and the antenna).  And, they'd presumably be in actual
frequency, as opposed to some internal thing, like DDS frequency,
although, this brings up some interesting questions if you have
multiple subreceivers tuned to different places.

James Lux, P.E.
Spacecraft Radio Frequency Subsystems Group
Flight Communications Systems Section
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Mail Stop 161-213
4800 Oak Grove Drive
Pasadena CA 91109
tel: (818)354-2075
fax: (818)393-6875



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Message: 19
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 22:33:36 -0400
From: Robert McGwier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] SUCCESS : Using an Apple Computers with the
        SDR     -5000
To: michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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michael wrote:
> I am happy to report that I have been successful at running the Flex
5000
with a new APPLE 24 inch  Intel Imac.  I am doing this using Apple's
beta
version of  bootcamp posted on their website and Microsofts Vista
Premium
(though Vista Home should also work).  I am running the Control Panel in
the
Normal Mode as opposed to Level 1 and most importantly I have TEMPORARY
disabled in the Windows System Device Manager my ethernet controller
(both
wireless and cable). This latter move seems to have resolved all my
issues
with the console locking up. I am able to run at 192Khz with a buffer of
1024 . This is hardly a major inconvience if one is prepared not to use
the
internet at the same time as using the radio. In my case no problem
because
I have a second computer here   I would appreciate knowing  if anyone
else
has a success at interfacing their SDR to the Apple intel series of
computers.. Ah! the pleasure of  an iMac NO computer fan noise!
Keeping my
fingers crossed. 
> 
> Mike VE3BGE
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Mike:

That is great news and I am sure a positive thing for our potential Mac 
users.  Thanks for your persistence.

How does your machine compare to one of the new Mac Mini's with a 2+ GHz

Core 2 Duo?  I want to buy my wife one.  ;-)  She is N2HPE and I have no

ulterior motive in doing this whatsoever . . . .   I promise.

Bob



-- 
AMSAT Director and VP Engineering. Member: ARRL, AMSAT-DL,
TAPR, Packrats, NJQRP, QRP ARCI, QCWA, FRC. ARRL SDR WG Chair
"If you're going to be crazy, you have to get paid for it or
else you're going to be locked up." Hunter S. Thompson



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Message: 20
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:33:06 -0500
From: Dudley Hurry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] SUCCESS : Using an Apple Computers with the
        SDR -5000
To: michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected]
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Mike,

Congrats..   You are one of the few that has gotten the IMac to work 
successfully with a real time application with Boot Camp.  Network 
cards/drivers can really be a big resource hog,  right move to temp. 
disable them..

have Fun,
Dudley
WA5QPZ


At 08:00 PM 8/16/2007, michael wrote:
>I am happy to report that I have been successful at running the Flex 
>5000 with a new APPLE 24 inch  Intel Imac.  I am doing this using 
>Apple's beta version of  bootcamp posted on their website and 
>Microsofts Vista Premium (though Vista Home should also work).  I am 
>running the Control Panel in the Normal Mode as opposed to Level 1 
>and most importantly I have TEMPORARY disabled in the Windows System 
>Device Manager my ethernet controller (both wireless and cable). 
>This latter move seems to have resolved all my issues with the 
>console locking up. I am able to run at 192Khz with a buffer of 1024 
>. This is hardly a major inconvience if one is prepared not to use 
>the internet at the same time as using the radio. In my case no 
>problem because I have a second computer here   I would appreciate 
>knowing  if anyone else has a success at interfacing their SDR to 
>the Apple intel series of computers.. Ah! the pleasure of  an iMac 
>NO computer fan noise!   Keeping my fingers crossed.
>
>Mike VE3BGE
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Message: 21
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:54:57 -0500
From: "Brad A. Steffler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Flexradio] WARNING WARNING WARNING Platform SDK uprade on
        WindowsXP SP2
To: [email protected]
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Three things you can always count on:

1. "The check's in the mail."
2. "Of course, I'll respect you in the morning."
3. "I'm from the government and I'm here to help you."

Now we can add a fourth one:
"At Microsoft we do it right - first time every time. Your software 
freedom is our greatest concern."

LONG LIVE LINUX (UBUNTU)

Brad A. Steffler
KE4XJ




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Message: 22
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 11:02:31 -0500
From: "a.groff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Flexradio] signal flow diagrams ?
To: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Does there exist in the KB Z( I couldn't find any ) a set of block or 
flow diagrams which relate the various  software functions, sliders and 
metering points, etc. It would clarify  for me how the various speech 
processor functions interact, etc. etc.

AL, K0VM



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Message: 23
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 12:07:06 -0400
From: Alan NV8A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] WARNING WARNING WARNING Platform SDK uprade
        on WindowsXP SP2
To: [email protected]
Cc: "Brad A. Steffler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

On 08/16/07 10:54 pm Brad A. Steffler wrote:

> Three things you can always count on:
> 
> 1. "The check's in the mail."
> 2. "Of course, I'll respect you in the morning."
> 3. "I'm from the government and I'm here to help you."
> 
> Now we can add a fourth one:
> "At Microsoft we do it right - first time every time. Your software 
> freedom is our greatest concern."
> 
> LONG LIVE LINUX (UBUNTU)


A couple days ago I ran into the IT guy for one of the local medical 
centers. He told me they've only just "upgraded" (if that is the 
appropriate term) from Win2K to WinXP. No way they're going to switch to

Vista any time soon.

73

Alan NV8A



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Message: 24
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 11:22:26 -0500
From: "Jim Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Flexradio] Latest Production Update?
To: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Did Gerald send out the latest production update for the 5K this week?
Jim K4JAF
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Message: 25
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 12:27:51 -0400
From: "Ray Andrews, K9DUR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] WARNING WARNING WARNING Platform SDK uprade
        on      WindowsXP SP2
To: "'Alan NV8A'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,  <[email protected]>
Cc: "'Brad A. Steffler'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Alan,

At TRW Automotive, where I recently retired from, they are still running
Win2K on the production floor with no plans to change.  The new office
machines are running XP, but not production.

73, Ray, K9DUR





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Message: 26
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 11:30:45 -0500
From: Ken N9VV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Latest Production Update?
To: Jim Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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please check the archive. It is easy to search with CTRL-F

Gerald's message on August 15th
http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/msg17749.html

de Ken

Jim Cox wrote:
> Did Gerald send out the latest production update for the 5K this week?
> Jim K4JAF

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