For sure Chuck, I have a hard time remembering that a release such as v1.10.2 is a beta and a SVN such as 1875 is an alpha that we are privileged to help check out. Our comments on the SVN code should be restricted to constructive comments to an open source programmer checking out his code!
I think it's amazing that those incremental SVN releases are so good we forget they're alphas! All our flexRadio programmers need our heart felt thanks! I am certainly guilty of slipping over the edge some times. They are terrific. vy 73's Rob AB7CF On Mon, 07 Jan 2008 23:10:46 -0600 Chuck Mayfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Bitching, Moaning, Ranting and Sniping with regards to Alpha Test > Software seems to be counterproductive. Maybe we should all > periodically remind ourselves that we are very fortunate that FRS > has > given us access to the SVN's and associated alpha updates. How many > > other for-profit companies can you name that have so freely shared > with their customers? > > If we can not handle rebuilding the database once in a while, > because > it is structurally modified to provide additional features, etc., > then perhaps we should just operate with the Releases and maybe > even > Beta-releases. > > 73, > Chuck - AA5J > > > At 10:21 PM 1/7/2008, Dudley Hurry wrote: > >Mark, > > > >No it's not a requirement to generate a new database, but there > are > >times that additional information needs to be stored in the local > >database, which changes the overall relationship. They do try > to > >hold down the changes, but particularly between major changes, > many > >things get added (like the 5000, second receiver, new DSP code, > more > >features, etc) so the database gets rearranged.. You might > notice > >some things not wroking correctly, or not at all.. > > > >Another time the DB needs to be rebuilt is when you might have an > >unexplained shutdown or even a loss of power might rearrange the > >Access DB for you.. > > > > > > > >73, > >Dudley > >WA5QPZ > > > > > >At 05:03 PM 1/7/2008, Mark Amos wrote: > > >Alan, > > > > > >[begin rant] > > > > > >I've had a similar question, but phrased it less delicately: "Is > it > > >just me or is the requirement to build a new > > >database just a bad design decision that doesn't improve with > age?" > > > > > >In a previous incarnation as a software developer, I would not > have > > >been able to foist off such a design decision on my > > >boss much less a consumer products customer (it would never have > got > > >past a design review.) I can hear his first > > >question: "What do you mean you've designed it so that the > customer > > >has to save the database and use a third-party > > >utility to re-import settings? I can think of 5 different ways > to > > >do this better [he would list them while beating me > > >with a rolled up copy of the design spec...] Now, go back and > > >re-design this piece!" > > > > > >So, now that I'm no longer a developer but rather an unruly > > >customer, I get to ask questions like this! In this case, > > >however, it's one of those things that seems so obvious, I am > > >embarassed to even ASK. > > > > > >I can understand it with beta releases -- so I just rebuild it > each > > >time and don't complain (much) because beta users > > >got no right to complain about nothin'. But really, for > production > > >versions of consumer software. Geez, as da kids > > >would say, WTF? (kidspeak for "That is a bad idea.") > > > > > >[end rant] > > > > > >Mark > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim > Ellison > > >Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 11:15 PM > > >To: Alan NV8A; Flex Group > > >Subject: Re: [Flexradio] SVNs and new database. Was: SSB Tx Audio > Punch > > > > > >No, it is not a requirement to create a new DB for every SVN > that > > >contains a PowerSDR change. See the KB article about > > >when a new DB should be considered. > > > > > >http://kb.flex-radio.com/article.aspx?id=10394 > > > > > > > > >-Tim > > >---- > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan NV8A > > >Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 11:02 PM > > >To: Flex Group > > >Subject: [Flexradio] SVNs and new database. Was: SSB Tx Audio > Punch > > > > > >Are we supposed to start with a new database for every new SVN, > or > > >simply keep the database used with SVN versions separate from > that used > > >with the release version? It'll be a pain changing antenna, CAT, > VAC and > > >other settings for every new SVN I download. > > > > > >73 > > > > > >Alan NV8A > > > > > > > > >On 01/05/08 01:57 pm John P Basilotto W5GI wrote: > > > > > > > One thing I left out, with the changes-- in SVN versions it is > > > recommended > > > > you start with a new database. I recommend trying SVN 1875. > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > > >FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > > > >http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > > >Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > > >Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: > > >http://www.flex-radio.com/ > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > >FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > >http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > >Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > >Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: > >http://www.flex-radio.com/ > > > > > > > >-- > >No virus found in this incoming message. > >Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1213 - Release Date: > >1/7/2008 9:14 AM > > > _______________________________________________ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flex-radio.com/ > > > _______________________________________________ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
