On the other side of the coin I have been looking forward toward the 144mhz option for use as an IF to drive my 2 meter IF microwave transverters. Whether the output be 25 or 50 watts it would be nice to have the capability to bypass the final stage in order to supply about 1 watt of drive for external transverters. I’m sure I’m not the only one planning to use external transverters. That’s sure a lot simpler than trying to attenuate 50 watts in the transmit path without affecting the receive path. I realize that the drive level may be software variable, but the possibility of the setting inadvertently changing either through operator error or through a software glitch is risky. Also, I don’t know if this is true for the flex, but some radios when set for low power produce an initial high power pulse upon keying which is also a concern.
Jim K5HY > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz > Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 09:06:53 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 144 and 432 - Low Power Design? > > I'd like to add my vote for 50W on the 2M/432 PA. I've been holding off on > my purchase of the 5000 waiting for the 2M/432 module. However, 25W won't > drive my amps to legal limit. For that matter, I don't know of any 2M or > 432 legal limit amps that can provide full power with only 25W drive. > 35-45W is typical. I don't want to have to add a brick for 2 dB more power. > The 2M/432 power output will probably be the major determining factor in my > decision to buy the 5000. Look at the competing rigs (IC-910 and TS-2000). > They both do 50W or more on these two bands. Even the IC-7000 does 35W on > 432. I am confident that the 5000 receiver is better than any of these > radios, but I need the TX side of things to be acceptable also. > > 73, > Clay W7CE > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John" > To: "'Mike Valentine'" ; > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 7:29 AM > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 144 and 432 - Low Power Design? > > >> Mike, >> >> The initial design called for a 25w PA on both bands; however, we have not >> yet finalized the design. We will reevaluate. >> >> John P. Basilotto >> W5GI >> Chief Operating Officer >> Marketing and Sales >> Office 512 535-5266 >> Fax 512-233-5143 >> 13901 Pond Springs Rd >> Suite 250 >> Austin, TX 78729 >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Valentine >> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 6:29 AM >> To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz >> Subject: [Flexradio] 144 and 432 - Low Power Design? >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mike Valentine >> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 6:02 PM >> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' >> Subject: 144 and 432 - Low Power Design? >> >> Tim, >> >> Regarding 2M and 432 transverters, I am disappointed to understand that >> they will be 25 watt output efforts. Is this still true? >> >> When one is contemplating high performance VHF or UHF stations, high >> power final amplifiers are de rigueur. A transverter with 25 watts >> output needs an inter-stage amplifier (with attendant signal quality >> degradation and potential amp-chain instability) to adequately drive a >> kilowatt amplifier of the ordinary 2-hole type. >> >> Much, much better would be 50 (or more) watts output from the >> transverter to directly drive a tube-type final amplifier. >> >> One may complain that there are no easy-to-engineer solutions in this >> power output level. Down East Microwave produces "high power" versions >> of their transverters that produce 60 watts on 144 or 222 and 50 watts >> on 432 using commercial RF power modules. The "HP" versions cost more >> than the 10 to 25 watt styles, but they are so much cheaper and such a >> better solution than putting a beefy solid-state amp between the >> transverter output and amplifier and hoping for the best. I've done it >> both ways and the high-power transverter is my proven favorite. Oh that >> Flex would do it, too! >> >> Does Flex have any comments on the subject of transverter output power? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Mike - W8MM >> Cincinnati >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Ellison >> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:09 AM >> To: Alan NV8A; Flexradio >> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Prices >> >> As for #2, there is no pricing information for the addition of 144/440 >> capability to the FLEX-5000 yet. >> >> >> >> -Tim >> >> _______________________________________________ >> FlexRadio Systems Mailing List >> FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz >> http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz >> Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ >> Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: >> http://www.flex-radio.com/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> FlexRadio Systems Mailing List >> FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz >> http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz >> Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ >> Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: >> http://www.flex-radio.com/ >> > > > _______________________________________________ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ > _______________________________________________ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/