You are above the rest, don't get too cautious.
Bugs are OK, it shows you are progressing
Burt

--- On Thu, 6/18/09, Gerald Youngblood <ger...@flex-radio.com> wrote:

> From: Gerald Youngblood <ger...@flex-radio.com>
> Dear FlexRadio customers:
> 
> A separate "SVN Experimental/Development" reflector is
> exactly what we plan
> to implement.  We will work out the details and make
> an announcement here in
> the next 1-2 weeks.  FlexRadio Systems is the only
> amateur radio company on
> the planet that gives its customers (and competitors)
> instantaneous access
> to the daily software development source and binary code
> base.  This access
> is a privilege we offer our customers, not a right.  
> 
> We know that our competitors point potential customers to
> this reflector to
> see discussions about experimental code that they use
> against us to claim
> that our software is buggy.  This is a patently false
> representation because
> Official Releases are highly stable and fully
> documented.  On the other
> hand, by definition experimental code (pre alpha) is always
> buggy.  
> 
> So the bottom line is that if our customers want to play in
> the developer's
> SVN sandbox, some new rules will apply.  In the
> meantime, posts here should
> only relate to Official Released versions of PowerSDR
> (currently 1.18.0).
> Thanks for your cooperation.
> 
> Regards,
> Gerald
> 
> Gerald Youngblood, K5SDR
> President
> FlexRadio Systems
> 13091 Pond Springs Rd. #250
> Austin, TX 78729
> Phone: 512-535-4713
> www.flex-radio.com
> 
> "Tune in excitement!" (TM) 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
> [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz]
> On Behalf Of Joe Roth-WC4R
> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 7:08 PM
> To: 'Bob McGwier'; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher
> 
> Excellent point Bob.
> A consideration could be made for a separate tester/coder
> email reflector.
> Joe 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
> [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz]
> On Behalf Of Bob McGwier
> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 6:44 PM
> To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] All using SVN 3166 or higher
> 
> Hello friends of Flex!
> 
> blip/flip fixed in SVN 3170 in the test branch. BUT THIS
> HAS NOTHING TO 
> DO WITH THE OFFICIAL FLEX RELEASES.
> 
> Folks, I do want to really urge you to use direct email to
> individuals 
> involved in the coding AND the bug reporting system to
> report on these 
> branches.   It leaves the wrong impression
> with people who are 
> completely unfamiliar with svn, branches, trunks, and the
> impression is 
> that "we have buggy unfinished code being distributed" or
> that we are 
> keystone cops.  There is only one place for official
> releases.  To the 
> best of our knowledge,  that code is stable, usable,
> wonderful.  We are 
> doing development in the open unlike almost anyone else in
> the business 
> but we cannot be punished by having bad publicity for doing
> something 
> good and unusual.
> 
> If you are one who cannot take a download from svn, watch
> it completely 
> break, and then be content with waiting FOREVER if
> necessary for a fix 
> after you have given an officially acceptable report, 
> then a) don't 
> take the download and b)  stick with the official
> release. These are on 
> the web site.  THAT is what should be discussed here
> unless it is your 
> intent to harm Flex Radio.  I do not believe that is
> anyone's intention 
> and I urge you to stop.  If you think this is a
> reaction to a specific 
> incident as well as a collection of previous
> incidents.  You would be 
> .... RIGHT.
> 
> On the blip/flip in the test branch (completely ALPHA
> unstable test 
> code, that would be why it is called...... TEST).
> 
> Last week Eric and I were trying something else.  We
> left it in an 
> indeterminate state, one that is quite normal in alpha
> code, when Eric 
> went away for 3 days and I took a badly needed weekend off
> (I have been 
> traveling nonstop for 3 weeks).  We cannot do this and
> have a dozen 
> people howl on the reflector here giving hundreds of
> potential customers 
> the impression that we are the keystone
> cops.   I uploaded a sdr library 
> (DttSP.dll) that had a problem in it.  Dozens of
> emails later in this 
> reflector and we have given the wrong impression to almost
> all who have 
> stopped by.  The code we are talking about is not an
> official release 
> and I am now taking the following discipline for
> myself.  I will not 
> discuss alpha code here in any way ever again.  I will
> personally simply 
> ignore all mention of them here.  I urge this on my
> fellow coding 
> types.  A remedy to our communication is on the way I
> believe by giving 
> a place for people who want to test possibly broken code
> openly and 
> Gerald will be announcing his proposed solution soon
> enough.  We want 
> your input, we cannot live without it,  but it does
> none of us any good 
> to hurt Flex Radio while we are trying to do good. 
> The good has to 
> outweigh the downside or the downside will simply win.
> 
> 73's
> Bob
> N4HY
> 
> Dudley Hurry wrote:
> > It has been reported that if you see the panadapter
> jump for normal to 
> > flat line about every second or
> so..   To get out of these situation, 
> > change the Sample rate to a different sample and then
> back.   I've 
> > seen this on the 3K and 5K
> intermittently.   I can't explain why, 
> but 
> > the change in sample rate seems to help.
> > 73,
> > Dudley
> >
> > WA5QPZ
> >
> >
> >
> > Brian Lloyd wrote:
> >> On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 6:31 AM, Bob McGwier
> <rwmcgw...@gmail.com>
> 
> >> wrote:
> >>  
> >>> Yes, but the changes you are referring to
> actually occurred in 
> >>> 3160.  I contend you just didn't svn up
> until 3166 after I made 
> >>> those changes.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> There have been two major improvements in CW
> recently in the test 
> >>> branch.  These are being beat up and more
> done before they are 
> >>> released. Thanks for the feedback.  This
> will all be in the upcoming 
> >>> stable release.
> >>>     
> >>
> >> Test Branch SVN 3160 works fine. SVN 3166 and 3167
> still appear
> >> broken. Any idea what happened between 3160 and
> 3166 to cause the
> >> problem?
> >>
> >>
> >> 73 de Brian, WB6RQN/J79BPL
> >>
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