Hi Bob,
Not into CW, although the XYL bought me a book on learning Morse code
for xmas, so may even start to read it one day soon.
I have been watching this list with interest, yes even non fist
operators are interested. If the Flex system is capable of being the
best on the market, then every effort should be made for it to be so. We
will all feel better about our purchase whether we use these facilities
now or later.
My appreciation for all your efforts... 

Steve G6HOQ

Flex-3000
PB-PAL 1.19.3 svn:3519
F/W 2.0.0.4



-----Original Message-----
From: flexedge-boun...@flex-radio.biz
[mailto:flexedge-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Bob McGwier
Sent: 28 January 2010 23:32
To: FLEX USERS
Cc: flexe...@flex-radio.biz
Subject: [FlexEdge] CW performance


The current situation with Pretty Betty using a recent model firmware
and recent driver (neither yet released, all of this in development and
not available on the web site) IN THE MONTH LONG  EFFORT ON CW is
producing some results.


Receive to transmit transition performance:

CW performance has been dramatically improved with Pretty Betty using
new firmware and new mechanisms for control of the hardware.  It
involved making changes to the firmware in the radio,  the generation 
code in DttSP, and the GUI code which coordinates it all.   We found 
numerous synchronization delays and repaired all of them we could so 
far.   We have the radio hardware switching in under 30ms.  The TX is 
fully stable with little variability in elements, no truncation of first
element when going from RX to TX in 30ms.  It sounds good in monitor and
it sounds good on another receiver.

Transmit to receive performance:

On the reverse side,  we have achieved stability of the  receive system 
by 70ms.   Usability (with some transient response still occurring) 
happens in 25-30ms depending on the radio.   So if we use the standard 
measure T=1200/W where T is the length of a morse element in ms and W is
the words per minute, you would miss one dit while the receive system
recovers if the other side was sending ~40 wpm.  This is not 60 wpm QSK 
performance and no one says any different.   We are investigating why 
there is a transient to see what can be done about reducing this. If
that is successful,  changes to allow for this level of operation must
be made to the AGC code to preserve state where appropriate when you key
and release the key in the radio.


To not miss a dit from someone sending 40 wpm,   1200/40 = 30ms, it has 
to switch faster than this   The BEST QSK rigs on the market now measure

transient responses and switching times on the order of 20ms which would
allow us to be a real QSK operation at speeds approaching 60 wpm if we 
get there.   I hope everyone appreciates how much effort a small  
company is putting into working on this for the 20 people in these
forums who can operate 40 wpm at anything like QSK level.  I know FOUR
but one of them happens to be bald, fat, loud and carry's a big $tick.  
;-).  Of course, Flex would like to attract NEW purchasers who might not
buy the radio if they are not able to send and receive 60 wpm QSK with
it (irrespective of the fact that if their life depended on it, they
would be dead in less than a couple of dits).

Things are much better and I see more light approaching from the far end
of the coding tunnel.

Bob
N4HY








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