On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Peter Scheller <nh...@msn.com> wrote:

>  Brian,
>
> On my current satellite radio (IC-910) there is no need to run separate
> power
> cables to the antenna mounted pre amps. They are switched in and out by
> software.
>

But the software has to do something to communicate with the preamps and
possibly power amps up there. Also, if you place a tower mounted power amp
up there you aren't going to be able to power it effectively through the
coax.


> Separate power cables to the pre amps, and manual switching are, at least
> to me,
> NOT ACCEPTABLE. Particular on a (very good) $7000.00+ radio. Would you like
> to
> put a model "T" type engine hand crank on a corvette?
>

Well, I certainly wouldn't consider this manual switching. You hit the PTT
on your mic and a lot of very nice, automatic sequencing happens. That is
uses separate wires may seem archaic to you but to me it spells a LOT of
flexibility to accomplish any sort of power and sequencing I might have in
mind. It also allows me to integrate products from different vendors to
achieve maximum performance and flexibility.

Perhaps I am wrong but it sounds like what you are using with your IC-9100
is a closed, proprietary system from Icom. Now I am not knocking Icom but I
would bet that their control system does not allow you to easily integrate
products from other vendors. I am also willing to bet that the Icom preamps
are not the best available. I am sure they are good, but probably not the
best. I tend to be oriented to performance and am willing to do some
integration in order to achieve it. You seem to be oriented toward
convenience and are willing to accept some performance compromises to
achieve that. I fully understand. Life is about choices.

The satellite systems I am most familiar with are VSATs pushing data through
various geostationary satellites. I expect to have to run separate power and
control to things like dish-mounted 200W C-band and Ku-band transmitting
converters and LNBs. It is just the nature of the beast and it has perhaps
set my expectations differently from yours.

But I understand where you are coming from. It is nice to run the coax up
the tower, attach the preamp, and have everything be automatic from the
get-go. I don't think you are going to get that from Flex as Flex doesn't
make matching mast-mounted preamps. I saw that Tim suggested that you run
power up the coax using a bias-injection 'T' which should work for powering
and switching the preamps. It probably wouldn't take much, just a relay, to
control that from the Flex to switch off the power to the preamp and put the
preamp into bypass before TX PTT is asserted in the radio. It would be very
close to what you have working with the Icom preamps but it would require a
bit of work on your part. You just have to decide whether or not it is worth
it.

Me? I like the Flex radios. They have the best receivers I have used.
Period. To me it would be worth an hour or two with a soldering iron and
some hand-tools. I think their built-in sequencer is quite nice and quite
advanced. Usually you have to buy an outboard box to get that. To me that
*is* the "Corvette" approach.

And besides, even a brand new Corvette needs new springs, shocks, wheels,
tires, anti-sway bars, bushings (I prefer Delrin myself), seat, and roll-bar
before it is *REALLY* ready to drive. It is all a matter of perspective.
;-)

(I drive a tricked-out Miata on the track myself but the 'vette is a close
second for best-raw-material-for-a-track-car. And I am coveting an LS-6
powerplant for my Miata.)

YMMV.

-- 
Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL
3191 Western Dr.
Cameron Park, CA 95682
br...@lloyd.com
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