See my comments below.

-Tim

From: Gary Warner [mailto:garyw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 8:20 PM
To: Tim Ellison
Cc: FlexRadio reflector
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Automatic Tune

Tim,

Comments below in maroon.

Gary

On 12/19/2010 2:26 PM, Tim Ellison wrote:

What is the value of a successful tune in the ATU form?  The default is 2.1:1 
so 2.0:1 would be a successful tune.
It is set for 2.1.   I set the target lower to 1.1, since I was getting really 
good tunes and wanted to go for even better- got a number of tunes at 1.1 and 
even 1.0, and still do occasionally, but it usually takes many attempts to get 
any result lower than the 2.1 result.   I get the "Tune failed" more often than 
not, and an indication that the SWR >10.0:1.
[Tim] Setting the target low will take the ATU a longer time to try and find a 
better match.  It will also slightly increase the probability of getting a Tune 
Failed too.



What the ATU will match is based on the complex impedance presented to it and 
not a particular SWR value.  If you are suddenly having problems, then I would 
first look at your antenna system; coax connectors, have you been having wet WX 
and freezing temps that can play havoc on connectors, etc..
Yes, we have been having a lot of wind and rain, but the antenna is a 
horizontal dipole with a long ladder line.   The ladder line terminates under 
the eave of my roof and gets no rain, and the connection is well taped and 
secure.   How would a balun act if it were a problem?
[Tim] The SWR could rise if the inside balun gets too wet.  I have one on a 20m 
dipole that is 1.3:1 dry and will present a 2.0:1 if we get a hard rain.  That 
one is exposed to the WX directly.  I am just too darn lazy to drag it out of 
the trees to fix it and the ATU does a good job of matching it, so I am not too 
worried about the transmitter.  The ATU will do nothing for the losses, so it 
really doesn't matter if it is 1.3:1 or 2.0:1




If all that is good, then there is a possible chance that the SWR bridge is out 
of calibration or there could be a hardware problem (blown diode).  To test 
this, you can connect a dummy load and see what SWR value the ATU reads it as, 
which should be 1.0:1.  If you have more than one dummy load, you can connect 
the together in parallel and see if you get a 2.0:1 SWR and it should tune it 
to 1.0:1.
There does not appear to be anything wrong with the radio, as I neglected to 
mention that I can tune a vertical antenna every time at well less than 1.5:1.  
  The vertical shows intermediate results during the tune that rarely exceed 
2.0:1, but the horizontal will show results all over the place during the cycle 
and sometimes in excess of 300:1.    If something is broken, however, why does 
it still sometimes still tune successfully?
[Tim] It depends on the complex impedance that the ATU is being presented from 
that particular antenna system.  If it is at the edge of what the ATU will 
match, you can get the "hit and miss" behavior that you are seeing.




If you think it is a hardware problem  you should Contact Dudley and have him 
triage the issue.





-Tim





-----Original Message-----

From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz<mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz> 
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Gary Warner

Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 5:11 PM

To: FlexRadio reflector

Subject: [Flexradio] Automatic Tune



Can someone tell me why my Flex 3000, which is running with SDR 2.0.16,

is suddenly having some difficulty tuning my antenna?    It will go

maybe ten times where the tune fails, and then the next time it will be

fine at anywhere from a perfect 1.0 to 1.4 SWR.    It is set to accept

2.0 as an acceptable tune, with a target of 1.1, but when it fails, it says it 
is exceeding 10.0.



Gary

WG1I



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