Yes Steve,
it is the time to see some changes on the SERIAL<>CAT behavior. It is the time 
to see some changes in the loggers GUI.

After the DOS those several logger GUI are the most ancient relics of the "text 
based" era. Nothing wrong to use a VT-100 interfaced to a HAL box, but just as and 
experiment. As to use a II world war receiver in a CQ WW. It is usable just for fun, 
almost.

The big ticket for this change was out since then. But quite nobody followed. I 
strongly hope that something could change. But not strictly today or tomorrow. 
One year? It may be.

There is plenty of hardware/software issues due to such historic view of 
communication in between ours devices. Somebody is doing a great work gearing 
in the right way our FLEX SDR and all that old hardware we like to you. But it 
is now time to change, at least from loggers to radios and vice versa.
BTW ours radios are more and more times sophisticated than years ago. But all 
is very well placed under the covers and the knobs.
I.E. Several loggers have human interfaces that looks like stone carved 
trilobites, i.e. push a key in that position not by function. So way do they 
have to change something? Now any/some key is mimicked on a pseudo on screen 
keyboard, but nothing else. Even a simple keyface rename is unwanted and not 
see as a feature by almost all loggers ... unbelievable!
Several loggers doesn't have even enough macro button to use all the needed CAT 
commands or doesn't have CAT provision at all ... I don't even want to speech 
of the lack of CAT commands in some well know transceivers, i.e. CAT clear.

Now it would be more useful to change those loggers behaviors, as to integrate 
effectively a new radio tool. Not to make a new radio tool look and work as a 
our beloved grandfather radio. Hey, I have some of those and I like each one!
Now, with the next radio generation, not those with knobs(!), it would be a 
must to change also the loggers. We don't want to still use stoned software 
with our brand new radio, isn't it?

If and when we will see those changes from loggers is unknown. By now I just 
see somebody trying to spread features like a bandmap populated panadapter. But 
we need and deserve more. Starting from SO2R, that would be easily not only 2, 
and going up to M/2 and M/M with integrated and synchronized panadapters coming 
out from a single box, at least for RX and integrating more traditional TX ... 
by example. And this would be just the top of the iceberg. We will see.

... at a time a simple triplexer and a triband with one of those new FLEX will 
fire up new operating techniques without having a shelter full of RTX and blah 
blah blah. With the right towers and aerials more could be done. But via the 
increasing usage of the technology also small pistols would increase 
effectiveness, so theirs numbers, theirs pleasure, and enjoy more the radio 
even with single aerials. (If anybody want to stay here back, why not, feel 
free.)

That the way/s I would like to see things grooving up. TU to all there at FLEX.
... and if you get some spare time, I am jocking you know, try to spread out 
yours knowledge addressing from there those loggers writers ...

              73 de iw1ayd Salvo

Message: 32
Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 21:35:29 -0500
From: "Stephen Hicks, N5AC"<[email protected]>
To: Greg<[email protected]>
Cc: FlexRadio<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Some 6700 questions
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 >Greg,

See below

Steve
 >  snip<

7.  CAT compatability with loggers...is this going to use the same
FLEX 5K protocol or something totally different where software authors
are going to have to add another radio script?

CAT is too popular and important to ignore.  We are building a CAT
interface.  However, we would be delighted to see the community realize
that CAT is a kludge and needs to be replaced.  We will have our own
control language for the radio (spoken between the client and the radio).
 We would also be interested in other well considered standards that emerge
to take the place of CAT.

 snip<



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