Guys, remember what it said under Brian's picture in his senior yearbook:
 "Pick a side and I'll argue with you."

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On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 7:41 PM, Brian Lloyd <brian-wb6...@lloyd.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Jerry Flanders <jefland...@comcast.net
> >wrote:
>
> > I think the most important thing to remember in the Rb vs GPSDO debate is
> > that without some other standard like a GPSDO or better to compare to or
> > calibrate against, you never know that your Rb oscillator is actually
> > on-freq.
>
>
> Sure you do. Double check it against WWV. If it is within 1/2 Hz, the Rb is
> locked and all is well. If it is unlocked it is very obvious because the
> output frequency sweeps up and down by almost 1kHz. Tune in WWV and you
> will KNOW it is unlocked. Once it locks and WWV is clear, it is working and
> nothing it going to move it off 10MHz.
>
>
> > The LPRO-101 has an adjustment to vary its freq. How would I know that
> > adjustment pot didn't get jostled during shipment?
>
>
> OMG, it could be .015 Hz off if it got turned all the way to the stops! Yes
> the tuning limit is +/- 15 MILLIHERTZ. Remember, the frequency
> determination is fixed by an electron transition in a shell of the Rubidium
> atom. Unlike a crystal oscillator, it can't be very far off. If it locks up
> at all, it will be within 1/2 Hz at 10MHz and quickly get better than that.
>
>
> > Lastly, since we know the early Rb units were subject to failure due to
> > aging of the Rb tube, how would I know the one I was considering has much
> > life remaining ?
> >
>
> Measure the lamp voltage. It is a pin on the connector. More than 7.5V and
> it still has lots of life left.
>
> >
> > Bottom line - I would HAVE to be able to check/calibrate it, but against
> > what primary reference?
> >
>
> And that is the point. You don't. Sure if you want to get it within 1 mHz
> you could tweak it but even without any calibration max it could be off
> after warmup is less that 1/100 of a Hz.
>
> Without a GPSDO to compare the Rb to, I think buying a Rb one would be a
> > crap-shoot.  After thinking it through, I skipped the Rb step and went
> > straight to the GPSDO.
> >
>
> But the GPSDO can be farther off during periods of poor GPS constellation
> geometry.
>
> Bottom line: it pays to understand the technology.
>
> --
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