> Andy Ross wrote:
> >John Wojnaroski wrote:
> >>Believe it or not, what makes an airplane turn is LIFT...  think
> >>about it.
Now I belive, sorry for my miss-understanding (if this is correct english
;-) ). Just thougt about and slept over...
simply said: bank causes beta, and beta causes due to rudder-stabilizer a
turn.

> >Aphorisms like "lift causes turns" or "the rudder doesn't turn the
> >aircraft" are training and educations tools; they're true as
> >metaphors, but aren't physical laws.
> so what you're saying is ignore the math and EOMs which the last time I
> checked seem to be what aero engineers use to design, build, and test
> based on kinematics and  physical forces. IMHO you've got it backwards

> One of the features that make FG so useful as a research tool is the
> validity and accuracy of the EOMs, so let's not short change that aspect
> of the program. Lord only knows what the boys at MS are using...

Yes, thats why I use Flight gear. It's real!!
I don't want to know what they are doing @MS or if the boys ever flown only
one type of A/C by theirself in real world....
I think since FS5 release (maybe before) of MS FS, MS said that FS is
developed with consultants of Cessna. Maybe they've done some good job (I
mean the consultant guys).

markus


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