Let's say someone comes up with a model for the old Pan Am Clipper, that wants to land fully loaded with passengers and half loaded with fuel. The actual aircraft will sink it's fuselage as far as 5 feet into the water, perhaps more if landing in 'seas'. There absolutely must be some code to support sea planes landing in the water.

The only references I can find seem to be rather old:

http://naca.central.cranfield.ac.uk/reports/1945/naca-report-810.pdf
'Analysis and Modification of Theory for Impact of Seaplanes on Water'
(that seems to be a NACA not NASA doc for you historiuans!)

However, if there is at least a primitve method of dealing with seaplanes, perhaps simply not setting crash condition to true, and increasing headwind up to a resistance equating the floats hitting the water, that would deal with the condition in the short term.

Then, there is the issue of jet propelled aircraft. I have some wonderful footage of an F-14 doing a fly-by of a carrier at 20 feet off of the waves. Sure, it looks cool... but according to historic data you can only pull this move if you are going at least as fast as xx knots. If you fly a turbojet powered airplane too slow, too close to the water, then the forward turbulence of your aircraft will cause you to ingest water through your intakes.

How about a prop plane like a C-123? The farthest a propeller's blade is going to reach is a good 4 feet above the bottom of the fuselage? Shouldn't FG be 'smart' enough to realize that in extreme conditions a plane like this could, theoretically, touch the surface of a body of water yet still not crash?

Sigh... I guess I have been looking for a part of FG to work on. If someone makes it so I could work this issue and come up with some reasonable rules, so that it doesn't end up with patch-on-patch-on-patch to deal with the issue of aircraft intersecting water.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Elliott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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On Friday 10 Jun 2005 21:20, Ampere K. Hardraade wrote:
hmm... flying undersea.  Isn't that what submarines do?



Ampere

That's an interesting idea:)

Relative viscosity of water must be a bit like super/hyper-sonic
in air but the relative speed-of-sound for the mediums won't
match at all.

Is there any close analogue to cavitation with propellers?

LeeE

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