--- Vivian Meazza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:

> Hi
>  
> About 10 days ago I got fed up with low frame rates
> using OSG around KSFO,
> so I went out and bought the best nVidia AGP card
> that I could find - 7600gs
> with 512Mb of VRAM. I fitted it with great
> anticipation to my machine - P4
> 2.8Ghz/800Mhz FSB with 1.5 Gb of RAM running XP -
> and, precisely NOTHING. No
> change in frame rate between the new card and the
> old - a FX6200 with 256Mb
> VRAM - for FG-OSG-HEAD. On the other hand plib-HEAD
> flies. Here are some
> comparative results:
>  
> Aircraft: Seahawk           
>                      OSG                            
>              PLIB
>        KSFO        General      Ocean              
> KSFO        General
> Ocean
> every check box turned to off:
>         25          30          60                  
>  45            80
> 117
> with everything checked, traffic manager on:
>        15           25          36                  
>  25            50
> 80
> as above with shadows and 3d clouds:
>                                                     
>  18            40
> 65
> as above but with trees and precipitation:
>        10           15         40 (but the rain
> turned itself off!)
>  
> Aircraft: c172p 
> every check box turned to off:
>       33            40          60                  
> 45            90
> 130
> with everything checked, traffic manager on:
>       27            33          40                  
> 30            50
> 75
> as above with shadows and 3d clouds:
>                                                     
> 30            50
> 65
> as above but with trees and precipitation:
>       15            25          30 
>  
> Aircraft: Buccaneer (particles)
> as  above but with trees and precipitation:
>        8            18          20         
>  
> In addition to the difference in frame rate, OSG
> also stutters, while plib
> is commendably smooth. I've tried both executables
> generated here using
> MSVC8, and Fred's pre-cooked binaries. So far as I
> can see the results are
> identical. I've profiled both OSG and plib - for
> anyone interested, some of
> the results are here:
>  
> ftp://abbeytheatre2.org.uk/fgfs/OSG/
>  
> While I am no expert in profiling code, the results
> seem to me to show that
> we are getting stuck in the bowels of OSG somewhere,
> while plib is
> well-ordered, with no particular cpu-hog, which is
> pretty much what the
> above table indicates.
>  
> My principle concern is that there appears to be
> very little headroom for
> future developments in OSG for shadows, or 3d
> clouds, or landing lights, on
> what is a not-very-old and pretty capable machine. I
> would be grateful if
> some Windows user(s) could confirm at least the
> shape of these comparative
> results. I understand that Linux users get much
> better results than these.
> We might be getting towards the point when Windows
> users are stuck with plib
> (and that's not all bad) while Linux users get to
> play with all the new
> goodies. We might be drifting away from our cross
> platform ethic.
>  
>  
> Vivian
>  
> Luckily the new card wasn't terribly expensive
> otherwise I would be quite
> p'd off
>  
Hi,

With the recent built by Fred I found the old stutters
again- but I could sovle this for me.

But I can't see any of those problems you have- I can
run FGFS with all features we have - plus heavy
self-written interactive traffic and mp. And the best-
I can run other programs beside too without any
problems (blender as an graphic example!)

You should know, that you have to set some things on
your pc, Nvidea and FGFS:

- switch Vsync in the Nvidea settings
- use the frame-rate-throttle!

I use a CoreDuo 2,6 Ghz and a Gainward 8800GT - but
there were people in the german forum and the official
forum (kid's playground) having no problems with the
recent OSG-built on lower pc. 
And the difference between a 8800 and 7600 isn't
really far.

Even on my old PC with a FX5200 OSG run very pretty at
least. 
It is true that OSG is slower than plib- but the
graphic is much better (exxept the 3D-clouds and the
missing shadows)- please not another discussion about
OSG vs Plib!

Regards
HHS

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