Certainly looks good, more modern but still a few years behind the times 
maybe? (i.e. a bit boxy and trying to overload the page with 
options/content)

I would like to point out that there seems to be nothing there that is 
Google App Engine specific. That design can be implemented using a 
regular open source CMS such as Joomla, Drupal or something as simple as 
WordPress with some custom plugins. Or even custom written reasonably 
easily using frameworks such as Zend, CakePHP (or asp equivalents 
depending on flightgear.org's capabilities). Ease of use to update the 
content of course should be important and if App Engine is good then no 
reason it shouldn't be considered.

For specific criticism on the design (constructive of course) -

* The "call to action", where you want to lead people as their first 
click on the site and should catch the eye, is the message about 
mpserver02. It needs to be a general FG introduction, a download link, 
the gallery or a combination of those to keep peoples interest up If 
someone browses to the home page by random link/chance the lack of a 
'now do this' in their face has been proven on other sites to cause a 
large number to just leave straight away. Think of it as a guided tour - 
With this much content the regulars who know the site are free to 
browse, but the newcomers need signposts and something to draw them in.

* The left menu is harder to scan quickly than it needs to be as the 
major navigation tool. Maybe have them all lined up on the left but the 
text still indented. The current sites menu is also good with dropdown 
boxes to hide subsections until it is needed. Ease of use and less 
clutter should be number 1 priority and the design should be driven by 
it, not the other way around.

* Clicking Index, Website and the logo would presumably all link to the 
same place, It only needs 1 of them.

* Why the login button? If the general public can't login, don't let 
them think they can. If they can, let them know what benefit they would 
get, i.e "Login/register to post comments".

and (not a design issue, just content in general)

*  There is no About->FlightGear on the menu or preferably obvious on 
the front page. Someone already into sims will want to see the feature 
list, but someone completely new has nothing to get them fired up about 
sims in general and FG in particular. Also be honest about what it can 
and can't (currently) do on that page, nobody likes over-hyping 
especially on open source apps. The current site has an introduction, 
although could still do with a bit extra. The first paragraph is key 
(same on the home page) and currently is just about open 
source/cross-platform support which needs to be said, but not straight 
away. It needs to grab them - "Your Cessna C172p SkyHawk is fuelled and 
ready to go on runway 28 right at San Francisco International Airport. 
There is a light easterly wind and barely a cloud in the sky, looks like 
the scenery is going to be impressive today. You are cleared for takeoff 
Captain, what are you waiting on the ground for? Roll out! <new 
paragraph> FlightGear is a complete open source flight simulator for all 
major computer platforms...", etc. Make them want to download and have a 
go before they do anything else that day.

I'm not a designer but I am currently considering going freelance as a 
web developer so been reading up on some of the standard rules of web 
design, content and user experience in case I need them. I am also a 
lurker so feel free to tell me not to poke my nose in :). I am still 
looking for some free time to contribute though as there are a few areas 
I'd love to help with, namely terrain rendering and computer ATC/AI 
traffic, maybe even a career mode (I really miss FSPassengers from 
FS2004/FSX). I was also going to try and do a design for this site as 
well, but been busy the last week as usual.

Curtis Olson wrote:
> - Do we want to lock ourselves into google?
> Regards,
>
> Curt.
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 4:25 AM, Patrice Poly <p.pol...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:p.pol...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     I like it too ! Very nice and fresh work !
>
>     On 08/03/2010 06:22, Pete Morgan wrote:
>     > Have developed the idea a bit further.
>     >
>     > http://fg-www.appspot.com/
>     >
>     > idea is to have a dedicated aircraft  and Online site also
>     >
>     >
>     > is this worth pursuing ? Its quite neat and developer friendly
>     on the
>     > Google App Engine.
>     >
>     > pete
>     >
>
>
> -- 
> Curtis Olson: http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ 
> <http://baron.flightgear.org/%7Ecurt/>


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