Good point, didn't account for that.
On Mar 16, 2010, at 8:05 PM, Adam Dershowitz wrote:

> That only helps make it clear if someone is violating a copyright.  It 
> doesn't help enforce it.  If the license is changed, and then someone were to 
> go and sell FG with those aircraft who would hire the lawyer bring the 
> copyright violation law suit?
> 
> --Adam
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 16, 2010, at 4:26 PM, kyle keevill wrote:
> 
>> Last I heard, The GPL license was applied to all the planes hosted on the FG 
>> website. I do believe however, that if we do take our own planes and put 
>> them in a restrictive CC license and then give permission for FG and only FG 
>> to use them, then we may be able to do some good.
>> On Mar 16, 2010, at 7:18 PM, Rob Oates wrote:
>> 
>>> Hmm, why not change the license on some of the newer planes to a more 
>>> restrictive creative commons license? This would give you more control over 
>>> how these are used. For instance, you could apply the license so the planes 
>>> could only be use for non-commercial/free projects, and if a commercial 
>>> project wanted to use your planes then they would have to request 
>>> permission to use them.
>>> 
>>> I think that is a fair trade off. Besides commercial companies should be 
>>> trying to improve the underlying Flight Dynamic Model and terrain system 
>>> ... not trying to getting rich quick off of our pretty planes.  
>>> 
>>> The GPL license should apply some probably just a handful of planes.
>>> 
>>> my 2 cents....
>>> 
>>> -Rob 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Pete Morgan <ac...@daffodil.uk.com> wrote:
>>> Just sent an email to New Zealand open Source and got this reply,
>>> pete
>>> 
>>> Hello Peter,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for bringing this to our attention. Please recognise that the GPL
>>> does not in any way preclude people from packaging up and selling a
>>> software application *so long as they comply with the terms of the GPL
>>> with regard to making the source code available on request*.
>>> 
>>> It may be that these guys are *not* in violation of the GPL so long as
>>> they can provide you with their source code if you request it. If they
>>> can't, then they should be given notice of a GPL violation.
>>> 
>>> There is another issue here, however: if they are packaging up wiki
>>> content, aircraft designs, et al. for which *they do not hold copyright*
>>> and which aren't licensed under a Creative Commons license allowing
>>> commercial distribution, then they *are* guilty of copyright
>>> infringement, and you can take them to task on that, *if you are (or
>>> represent) the copyright holder*.
>>> 
>>> As a representative of the NZOSS, I would fully encourage you to explore
>>> both issues (the distribution of source code, and the distribution of
>>> copyrighted materials constituting potential copyright infringement)
>>> with the FlightProSim.com people.
>>> 
>>> One of our other members has noted that they're similarly distributing
>>> Free!Ship: http://www.3dboatdesign.com/indexg.php
>>> <http://www.3dboatdesign.com/indexg.php>
>>> 
>>> We'll investigate that.
>>> 
>>> Let me know if you have any further questions.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> 
>>> Dave Lane
>>> NZOSS council member
>>> 
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