On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 23:00:56 -0400, Gary wrote in message 
<aanlktik08gtuv+ag=mc1-obtoz391ofyp0-mp1a1n...@mail.gmail.com>:

> On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Arnt Karlsen <a...@c2i.net> wrote:
> > On Sat, 9 Oct 2010 14:10:58 -0400, Gary wrote in message
> > <aanlktikrukm+kk2runqqklqcwymy1vjpuvi79n715...@mail.gmail.com>:
> >
> >> On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Arnt Karlsen <a...@c2i.net> wrote:
> >> > On Fri, 8 Oct 2010 00:16:40 -0400, Gary wrote in message
> >> > <aanlktikcpogneb+aonmfgddctnkftfsyqv6evl+9g...@mail.gmail.com>:
> >> >
> >> >> Can anyone help with a 3D cloud issue? The clouds now display as
> >> >> identical flat gray panels instead of their usual realistic
> >> >> appearance. This has persisted for (guessing) 6-8 weeks now.
> >> >> Here are a couple screen shots to illustrate the problem-
> >> >>
> >> >> http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/1671/3dclouds1.jpg
> >> >> http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/8100/3dclouds2.jpg
> >> >>
> >> >> FlightGear and SimgGear are Gitorious 'next' branch, fgdata is
> >> >> Gitorious 'master'. ASUS A8V Deluxe motherboard, AMD Athlon 64
> >> >> X2 4200+ CPU, 2G memory. Video card is ATI Radeon 9700 Pro AGP.
> >> >> OS is Slackware64 Linux, kernel 2.6.35.5, X.org open source
> >> >> video driver (not the ATI proprietary one) using KMS.
> >> >
> >> > ..which one, "ati", "radeon" or "radeonhd"???
> >> > With a 9700 Pro, you should be using "ati" or "radeon".
> >> > (If you are, try "radeonhd" to see how that works, it
> >> > _should_ fail.)
> >> >
> >> > .."ati" is a wrapper for "radeon", "mach64" and
> >> > "r128", X should pick the right one for your card,
> >> > but sometimes the automagic fails.
> >> Hmm. It loads both ati and radeon modules, then the log output is
> >> tagged "RADEON(0)". So it must be using the radeon driver. They
> >> don't exactly make it easy to tell :-) It's not radeonhd, my card
> >> is pre-HD.
> >>
> >> >
> >> > ..you posted picture links, how about your log links?
> >> Good point. X server log:
> >> http://www.mediafire.com/?21cfo1sb4v6h694
> >
> > ..I find a line '(**) RADEON(0): Option "AccelDFS" "1"',
> > which I suspect may correspond to an option line in your
> > /etc/X11/xorg.conf (Option "AccelDFS" "1"), try comment
> > it out and see what happens.
> Correct. I set it to 0, didn't seem to change anything. Xorg.0.log
> echoed the config line but there was no other diff from the previous
> log.

.."1" & "0" are the PCIE settings, with your AGP 9700 Pro, 
you should be using "off", according to the X gurus.
Give it a try. 

> > ..http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/ATIRadeon says "Option
> > "AccelDFS"" should be "# 1/0 On for PCIE, off for AGP",
> > http://www.x.org/wiki/radeon suggests there are changes
> > in e.g. DFS that now stall things that used to work.
> >
> > ..http://www.free3d.org/ for X tweak benchmarks. ;o)
> >
> > ..your X log is taken after a FG run?
> No, but I checked it again just now after running FG and nothing had
> been added.
> 
> > Anything in dmesg output?
> No, nothing there either.

..' dmesg |grep drm ' says what?  I saw you 
use "radeon.modeset=1" in your boot command, 
I use "video=radeon:2048x1536-59.4", and I 
suspect a goof on my own part.

> Again, I appreciate you taking a look. You've given me good some ideas
> for further research, namely, looking at the KMS radeon driver sources
> for authoritative info on the different driver options. My config file
> hadn't been updated for a while and some of the options weren't even
> recognized any more.

..most of them were recognized but rejected by X.  
My impression is your AccelDFS setting was accepted 
where it IMNTHO should have been rejected.

> My other idea is to grovel through the FG code that loads/executes
> shaders, and look for something that indicates whether they worked or
> not - just plug in some calls to printf(), and try to see what's
> happening in there.

..aye.  First I recommend weed out all X goofs.  I have my 
current 2 FG boxes a 3.2GHz (hyperthreaded) P4 w X850XT-PE
is slower than my single threaded Athlon XP 3000+ w 9800Pro,
which is not much faster than my old AMD K-2 450_M_Hz w an
128 bit 9250 in a _2_x AGP slot, I should see a 10 to 30 times 
higher frame rate on my current gear with a similar success.

-- 
..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o)
...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
  Scenarios always come in sets of three: 
  best case, worst case, and just in case.

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