On 05/17/2010 03:09 AM, Sid Boyce wrote:
> OK, I shall have to build FlightGear latest and try it again.
> Regards
> Sid.
>
> On 17/05/10 02:10, Donn Washburn wrote:
>
>> Hey Group;
>>
>> Success! I took loading modules that hwinfo --glxcard said I needed so
>> they are not loaded. And I removed --ignoreABI from xserverrc. Loaded
>> a NV.run that Sid Boyce suggested (It does complain about ABI). Fired
>> up X and fgfs fired up correctly. I guess the problem was NV saw the
>> nouveau module as a rivafb module. Good news is Flightgear is working.
>>
>> On 05/16/2010 04:28 PM, stefan riemens wrote:
>>
>>> If you want to disable nouveau (I believe that's the correct
>>> spelling...) you can try to append nomodeset or nouveau.nomodeset to
>>> your kernel boot line. This will prevent nouveau from loading and
>>> allow you to use the nvidia driver. At least this is how it works in
>>> Fedora.
>>>
>>> BTW, while nouveau's 3d support is great news, it won't be any good
>>> for flightgear. It is currently still experimental (not enabled by
>>> default) and targets merely gnome-shell and compiz and the like. I.E.
>>> only a well defined subset of the OpenGL api so far. It does that very
>>> well though here.
>>>
>>> Stefan
>>>
>>> 2010/5/16, Sid Boyce<sbo...@blueyonder.co.uk>:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 16/05/10 17:34, Donn Washburn wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 05/16/2010 08:13 AM, Curtis Olson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I run fedora here, and not suse, but if I saw this on a fedora system,
>>>>>> the very next thing I would do is reinstall my nvidia graphics
>>>>>> drivers. Often, system updates step on the nvidia driver pieces
>>>>>> forcing a reinstall.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is also something new in Xorg for Fedora 12 ... an open source
>>>>>> driver for nvidia cards called noveuau (probably have an off by one
>>>>>> error on the spelling) is installed by default. This driver seems to
>>>>>> work really well for 2d operations, but not for 3d, so I've taken
>>>>>> steps on my system to disable it and install the nvidia drivers from
>>>>>> nvidia.com<http://nvidia.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Curt.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Guess what? glxgears fails also.
>>>>>> # glxgears
>>>>>> glxgears: Error: glXCreateContext failed
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And fgfs strill fails after everything was recompiled.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> as root even> # fgfs
>>>>>> Error: Unable to create OpenGL graphics context.
>>>>>> Error: Unable to create OpenGL graphics context.
>>>>>> Segmentation fault
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Notice the word "context" in both errors
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> There has been a lot of chatter about the nouveau driver lately
>>>>> concerning openSuSE's elist. Thing like xorg no longer needs
>>>>> /etc/X11/xorg.conf. It seems xorg chooses the best match video driver
>>>>> (if your card supports this) and then interrogates the card for all of
>>>>> the variable it needs. If it fails - tough luck. I have even
>>>>> seen/heard that the kernel will be handling the video soon. So, say
>>>>> good bye to a lot of past years functionality.
>>>>> Like<CTRL><ALT><+/->. My guess is about all distros will soon follow
>>>>> xorg, nouveau and the kernel. Bad News!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Not really bad news, when nouveau does 3D, expected in Fedora 13.
>>>> CTRL-ALT+/- , i.e changing resolutions can be done using xrandr and I
>>>> would hope from within KDE and Gnome menus.
>>>> The kernel handles most drivers that's why you don't have to find that
>>>> CD you know you had or get online when your link is down to get
>>>> something to work. If nouveau 3D goes in, good news that I don't have to
>>>> fiddle with NVidia's driver that often fails when the kernel ABI
>>>> changes. If NVidia would open source it, then the kernel guys could
>>>> maintain it.
>>>> Regards
>>>> Sid.
>>>> As Linus told the suits, Linux is evolution, not intelligent design.
>>>>
>>>>
>
>
>
By the way their CVS is down. Both FlightGear and Simgear timeout.
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