worms indeed. I might have opened this can. And now I'll close it and hold my breath.

We're going to go with:
Reorderer
        List Reorderer
        Image Reorderer
        Layout Reorderer
and we'll change now for 0.5 and we'll employ Colin/Anastasia/ Michelle's method of

The documentation
should make it clear that the older functions will be moved out of
core and into a compatibility library for 0.6. Then we'll gradually
transition users to the new API..

The reasons are, as Gary brought up, the Reorderer does more than the action of drag-n-drop (mouse users only) and it is fair to say (maybe?!) that it is a thing that Reorders, ergo The Reorderer.

We'll need to continue to work on making our naming convention meaningful to people who aren't familiar with our familial components.

Thanks for all your comments!
Jess


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On Sep 25, 2008, at 8:18 AM, John Norman wrote:

In fear and trepidation of opening a horrible can of worms, I just thought I'd point out to me that the word "reorderer" doesn't actually convey any meaning. It is clearly a word that the project has come to agree encapsulates the work done, but to the person unaware of the work done, it doesn't say much. I tried a Google:define and got:

No definitions were found for reorderer.

Suggestions:

   - Make sure all words are spelled correctly.
   - Search the Web for documents that contain "reorderer"

The result of the web search of course puts the Fluid pages at the top, which gives you the opportunity to define the term. But I didn't have any understanding from hearing the word before searching.

I wonder if it is worth saying in two sentences what you want each name to capture and maybe asking people outside the project what they would think are words that capture the meaning in those 2 sentences.

Probably overkill. Maybe best to invent a word and define it, but the names should come with pithy definitions alongside if the words are unknown to the audience.

John

On 24 Sep 2008, at 21:35, Jess Mitchell wrote:

Before it happens, I'd like someone who was involved in the naming of Layout Customizer to weigh in on that name change. More than the other names, that one has caught on to a certain extent. I know I use it in conversation all the time and a good bit of our documentation early on used reorderer and layout customizer interchangeably (though I know that shift reflects some fundamental code changes). Is there a reason to change it?

BTW +1 Image Reorderer

Thoughts?

Jess

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On Sep 24, 2008, at 4:13 PM, Daphne Ogle wrote:

I change my vote to Image Reorderer. It wasn't on the table when I initially voted :)

-Daphne

On Sep 24, 2008, at 12:32 PM, erin yu wrote:

Chatted with Anastasia - she thinks renaming (at least on the wiki) is a necessary step, but we'd have to worry about backwards compatibility. Renaming in the code wouldn't be terribly difficult, but we'd have to be thorough.

Here are the responses so far.

Layout Reorderer
+ 1:    Erin, Anastasia, Colin, Gary, Daphne, Allison
-1:     Eli

Thumbnail Reorderer
+1:     Erin, Anastasia, Colin, Gary, Daphne
-1:     Antranig

Image Reorderer (as opposed to Thumbnail Reorderer)
+1:     Gary, Erin, Allison


Erin





On 24-Sep-08, at 2:34 PM, Anastasia Cheetham wrote:


On 24-Sep-08, at 2:19 PM, Colin Clark wrote:

An alternative approach would be to provide an optional JavaScript file that offers backwards-compatibility for such API changes. This
is very much inspired by John Resig's approach to API change in
jQuery.


Hm. I'm not sure I understand what this file would contain - the old APIs wrapped around calls to the new APIs? I'm looking at the jQuery
code, and I don't see anything that looks like what you're talking
about?

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