Hi everyone,

Thanks so much for your suggestions! In the end to keep things clean and simple, we decided to distinguish the non-selectable dates by making the day number gray (which is the same as what happens for dates in the next/previous months in the same grid) and specifying that there is no action on mouse-over, so they aren't (and don't seem) clickable.

A user can go back in time beyond they point where they can select dates (e.g. open dates which are before due dates), but they won't be able to make a selection once they get there. We feel this is the best choice because it is possible that someone would want to look at a month in the past (or in another non-selectable range) but not make any selections, and it would probably be more confusing to have them try to select a previous month and year and just have nothing happen.

We also won't prevent users from selecting dates in the past, as birthdates are another instance where this would be needed. The implementor can always configure what years they would like to show in the drop-down in case they need to access years in the past (http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Date+Picker+Storycards#DatePickerStorycards-story9 ).

Erin and I have finished our work for now on the Date Picker, so feel free to check out the (for now) finalized documentation here: http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Date+Picker+Design+Overview .

Cheers,
Allison

On Feb 5, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Eli Cochran wrote:

Seems that this use case is something that should be configurable. While in most cases (the default) setting times in the past are illegal, I can think of one case where the past is relevant, using the date picker in a timeline application.

- Eli

On Feb 4, 2009, at 6:31 AM, Justin wrote:

Would it also make sense, not to allow the user to move backwards in time, that is prevent them from choosing a month or year that is before the open date. This won't help with days in the same month but it may help if they go back a month or year by accident and are confused because it is all the same colour.

- Justin
On 4-Feb-09, at 9:11 AM, Anastasia Cheetham wrote:


On 3-Feb-09, at 2:53 PM, Allison Bloodworth wrote:

3) We haven't come up with a great design solution to strongly distinguish non-selectable dates (e.g. when entering a Due Date for an assignment, dates *before* the Open Date shouldn't be selectable) and dates in the previous month.

In some date pickers I've seen that distinguish between pickable and non-pickable dates (e.g. hotel room availability), the distinction is made with green and red coloured backgrounds. I've always found that to be pretty obvious, given our existing common associations with those colours. They could probably be combined with grey vs. black foreground colours for the month distinctions? You'd probably have to play with shading, etc., and I do see that you already use background colours to distinguish weekdays from weekends, but maybe it's an idea to start with?

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Software Designer, Fluid Project    http://fluidproject.org
Adaptive Technology Resource Centre / University of Toronto

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