Hi Everyone,

The Fluid Project is now using Matrix <https://matrix.org/> / Element 
<https://element.io/> for our online collaborative discussions. Please see the 
Matrix Channel <https://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Matrix+Channel> 
wiki page for information about the various rooms available. Past logs for the 
IRC Channels are available in the fluid-irc-logs 
<https://github.com/fluid-project/fluid-irc-logs> git repo.

Thanks everyone and hope to see you on Matrix.
Justin

> On Nov 10, 2020, at 3:15 PM, Justin Obara <obara.jus...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> We’ve been evaluating Matrix/Element for about two weeks now. It seems that 
> the majority of conversations are now taking place in Matrix. I haven’t heard 
> any show stopper issues as of yet, but please do weigh in on your experience. 
> We’re currently still on track to switch to Matrix as our primary synchronous 
> communication channel on Nov 16. 
> 
> Things to note:
> 
> There have been some connection and verification issues here and there, but 
> they seem to have resolved on their own. Possibly related to updates.
> While Matrix rooms support guest access, it doesn’t seem that Element or 
> possibly any other web client support guest accounts.
> 
> Thanks
> Justin
> 
>> On Oct 26, 2020, at 9:27 AM, Justin Obara <obara.jus...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:obara.jus...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> As a follow up, I’ve started a wiki page about Matrix with some general 
>> information for connecting to our channels. 
>> 
>> https://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Matrix+Channel 
>> <https://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Matrix+Channel>
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Justin
>> 
>>> On Oct 26, 2020, at 9:10 AM, Justin Obara <obara.jus...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:obara.jus...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>> 
>>> At the lightning talk last Thursday (Oct 22) the community was introduced 
>>> to Matrix <https://matrix.org/> / Element <https://element.io/> as a 
>>> potential alternative to IRC. Some key takeaways:
>>> 
>>> Like IRC Matrix is a protocol that supports use with a variety of clients
>>> Element is a client for accessing Matrix
>>> Matrix and Element are both open source projects
>>> Mozilla made the switch Matrix at the end of 2019
>>> Mozilla worked with Element to improve accessibility
>>> Matrix/Element provide a more Slack like full featured synchronous 
>>> communication platform that includes options for audio/video calls
>>> 
>>> We have been finding that an increasing number of people joining our 
>>> community are expecting to use a modern chat platform for communication and 
>>> are having difficulty understanding/working with IRC. There are some IRC 
>>> clients that help bridge the gap, such as irccloud.com 
>>> <http://irccloud.com/> however, they only benefit those using a similar 
>>> client and are limited by the protocol itself.
>>> 
>>> As of last Thursday we’ve opened up a Fluid Project Matrix community 
>>> <https://matrix.to/#/+fluid-project:matrix.org> and matching rooms for the 
>>> purpose of evaluating Matrix. However, at the moment, the IRC channels are 
>>> still our primary means of synchronous communication.
>>> 
>>> The proposal is to spend the next two weeks evaluating Matrix. Please 
>>> provide feedback on your experience. If there are no show stoppers we plan 
>>> to switch to Matrix as our primary means of synchronous communication 
>>> starting Nov 16. At that point we’ll also explore setting up a bridge 
>>> between Matrix and IRC to help with the transition.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Justin
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 20, 2020, at 11:46 AM, Ned Zimmerman <nzimmer...@ocadu.ca 
>>>> <mailto:nzimmer...@ocadu.ca>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>  
>>>> Colin, Gio, Justin, and myself have been exploring Matrix 
>>>> <https://matrix.org/> / Element <https://element.io/> as an alternative to 
>>>> IRC for IDRC and Fluid Project chat. Mozilla made the switch 
>>>> <https://discourse.mozilla.org/t/synchronous-messaging-at-mozilla-the-decision/50620>
>>>>  from IRC to Matrix in December, and we’ve looked at their criteria and 
>>>> evaluation of Matrix and Element (particularly around the client’s 
>>>> accessibility, as documented by Marco Zehe 
>>>> <https://www.marcozehe.de/how-to-use-element-and-matrix-with-a-screen-reader/>)
>>>>  as well as trying the service ourselves. At this point, we’d like to 
>>>> schedule a lightning talk for this Thursday (October 22) after standup to 
>>>> share what we’ve found and get feedback from the broader community before 
>>>> we move forward any further.
>>>>  
>>>> In the meantime, please feel free to explore at the links I shared in this 
>>>> message and if you have any questions you’d like to put on the table for 
>>>> the lightning talk and following discussion you can add them to the Google 
>>>> Doc: 
>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AS1RsbSls5XfTxAbxAGRSCh7LgUuRVI0aNYsMngVb7g/edit#heading=h.9c0j4nlphmwf
>>>>  
>>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AS1RsbSls5XfTxAbxAGRSCh7LgUuRVI0aNYsMngVb7g/edit#heading=h.9c0j4nlphmwf>
>>>>  
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Ned
>>>> —
>>>> Ned Zimmerman (he/him)
>>>> Senior Inclusive Developer
>>>> Inclusive Design Research Centre, OCAD University
>>>> https://idrc.ocadu.ca 
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