Actually, I meant to post a few days ago as I very much dislike the email 
traffic in this list.  In all the projects I participate on I separate Jira 
messages out and place them in their own folder so that I can more easily 
follow the human generated traffic. Unfortunately, it seems that I can't really 
do that in this list because the review messages show up such that they are 
indistinguishable from a normal reply. In fact, once I replied before I 
realized I needed to go into the review to make the comment. In addition, I 
believe all of these also appear in the Jira issue and email.  The end result 
is I end up deleting a lot of emails without reading them but I'm unsure if I'm 
missing something I should have looked at. Also, the review tool seems to cause 
way more emails than I am used to from other projects.

Just to put this in perspective, I follow over 30 mailing lists plus my normal 
work email.  I get several hundred emails a day from the ASF so anything that 
can be done to improve this is a big help.

Ralph




On Mar 2, 2012, at 10:42 PM, Arvind Prabhakar wrote:

> Hi Eric,
> 
>> I just checked out Flume and the build is broken.
> 
> Are you sure the build is broken? It seems to work fine for me at
> revision 1296578 - which is the last revision based on my commit of
> FLUME-978. See the build log below:
> 
> http://pastebin.com/RNq4gFGX
> 
>> ... The hudson job seems to
>> be largely ignored.
> 
> I disagree. It is on our list of things to do and there is a jira to
> track it. See:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLUME-974
> 
>> ... I want to stress that code reviews aren't just for
>> show; we should actually review the code.
> 
> +1 on the idea that code reviews aren't just for show. -1 for the
> implied accusation that we are not doing it. I don't think any one of
> us in this community takes it lightly. As with anything, we can
> overlook something at times - and that is why the reviews are public
> so that others can jump in and help out. If you find something being
> overlooked, please point it out.
> 
>> Some classes were removed (I
>> don't necessarily think it was a great idea, but that's another story) and
>> tests weren't updated and now they fail to compile.
> 
> I am not sure why you are seeing this. Look at the build log above - I
> did a fresh checkout and everything compiles and tests correctly. Are
> you trying to compile a previous revision? If so - note that when I
> was committing FLUME-865, I accidentally did not checkin the newly
> added files (revision 1291612); realized the mistake in a few minutes
> and added the missing files (revision 1291613). I guess the only point
> where the build can break is if you checkout the earlier of these two
> revisions. If there are more places at various commits, please let me
> know.
> 
> Thanks,
> Arvind
> 
> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 7:42 PM, Eric Sammer <[email protected]> wrote:
>> All:
>> 
>> I just checked out Flume and the build is broken. The hudson job seems to
>> be largely ignored. I want to stress that code reviews aren't just for
>> show; we should actually review the code. Some classes were removed (I
>> don't necessarily think it was a great idea, but that's another story) and
>> tests weren't updated and now they fail to compile. What bugs me more is
>> that this happend about 5 commits ago which means people aren't running the
>> tests at all nor are they validating the patches they commit.
>> 
>> If you make a change to the code base and you only run the tests you care
>> about, you're defeating one of the main purposes of unit testing; to ensure
>> there are no unintended consequences of the changes.
>> 
>> Please be vigilant. People trust their data to Flume and we shouldn't take
>> that lightly. It's critical that with all the new committers joining the
>> project and the pace of development that we not go feature crazy and get
>> right back to where the 0.9.x branch was. I will continue to be a pain the
>> ass about this. :)
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> --
>> Eric Sammer
>> twitter: esammer
>> data: www.cloudera.com

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