Roger,

If you really want training for FM7, there are some great books which can be had for really cheap. Go to Amazon and enter "FileMaker 7" to find a bunch of really useful options. Just click on the "Used & new" links next to the prices to get them at a fraction of the regular price.

Or, you can join the rest of us and just bite the bullet for FM9. Way better option.

And you already have the official training for it!  ::-)

j.

On Sep 10, 2008, at 9:37 PM, rogeradams wrote:

Hi Everyone,

I am using FM 7 and, following my question (see below) on the compatibility of the FM9 based training manual with FM 7, I have invested in the Filemaker Training Series which arrived a couple of days ago. It now transpires that the training CD modules are NOT compatible with FM7 and that I now find my only option to use the training programme is to upgrade to FM9 at an expense of about AUD 200.

Upon querying FM Australia, I was informed that there is no alternative way to use the training programme.

I find this totally unacceptable.

The reason why I am writing to the List is to make users aware of this problem and to ask if anyone has a CD of the FM7 training series which I could purchase from them so that I can continue with the training programme.

Many thanks for your help.

Kind regards

Roger

.On Sep 3, 2008, at 11:04 PM, Richard S. Russell wrote:


On 2008 Sep 3, at 9:14, rogeradams wrote:

Hi Forbes and Steve,

Thank you both for your kind responses. This list is a gem. The help and advice that can obtained is wonderful.

Yes, and it is people like Forbes and Steve and Beverly Voth than make it so.

I must confess that when I originally tried this several years ago, I became very frustrated and settled for flat files as I had more important things to worry about. Now that I have more time, I have now decided to make a serious attempt to learn FM 7 using this as a learning template before possibly upgrading to FM 9.

You are in luck, then, as FMP 9 will work directly with files created by FMP 7. You'll find that they all share the same ".FP7" file extension. Why, then, you may be wondering, should you upgrade to FMP 9? It's because it provides you with a smoother-working set of tools and more capabilities. For instance, you can "stack" some things on top of tabbed index cards on the same swath of screen real estate, much as your web browser allows you to click on a tab and have an entirely different web page come up. FMP 7 won't let you do that.

However, it sounds as if that's a bit beyond what you're trying to do at present, so FMP 7 will probably be just fine for your current work.

Ok. What I am trying to achieve is a database(file?) from which I can draw the following reports:

1. A basic list with names, addresses, membership type (founder, invested, joining) and membership basis (showing resident, non-resident and resigned) and contact information only 2. A founder members list showing the dates they resigned (If they resigned) 3. All-Time Members List (a historical record showing joining, investiture and resignation dates using radio buttons
      in the membership type field to identify each type)
4.   A separate resignation list with dates of resignations
5. Current Members List (showing member ID, first name, last name (membership basis e.g. joining, invested and resigned, using radio buttons in the membership basis field for each type). There should be no resigned
     members on this list.

Is the above possible? If I have one file, can you suggest what I need to do to achieve the above objectives?

Yes, all of this is doable.

What you should do is have one screen (layout) for data entry on which you show ALL of the attributes you want to associate with any given person. At a minimum, you will want 2 date fields (and I ALWAYS use 4-digit dates, because I learned my lesson in Y2K), 1 each for "Joined" and "Left" (or whatever you want to name them).

Then I'd suggest a calculated field called "Founder" (number result) that would be based on the formula
   If ( Joined < Date ( 9 ; 11 ; 2001 ), 1, "" )
except that you'd substitute the appropriate month, day, and year of the organization's founding in the formula. Next create a value list entitled "One", which will contain exactly 1 value, the number "1". Format the "Founder" field as a check box based on the value list "One". It will thereafter show a check for anyone whose "Joined" date is earlier than the one you specify in the "Founder" formula.

Now, this is a more roundabout way of establishing a "Founder" flag than you would have had to go thru, but I use it because it illustrates how a number of FMP features and fields work together to produce the desired results.

But the main thing you wanted to know was how to generate several different LISTS from the information you're storing. This is exactly the sort of thing databases are good at. What you must do for each separate type of list is perform a Find for the KIND of people you want on that list. If you want to find the founders, do a Find for anyone with a check in the "Founder" box. If you want to find people who are current members, do a Find with an "=" sign in the "Left" field. (That'll pull in people who haven't left yet.) If you want an all-time members list, do a Find All.

THEN, after you've found the records you want, go to a SEPARATE screen (layout), whence you'll print them out. At the top of this screen, in a "Header" part, have a "Title" field of type Text, with global storage (which means it occurs only once in the whole database, rather than once per record), into which you can type the title of the report. This layout will have only the fields that you want to appear on the printed report, not every conceivable field in the whole table. And its body part will probably be only 1 or 2 lines high, rather than huge, like the data-entry screen.

This should be enuf to get you started. As you've observed, this list is a good place to get advice, but if you feel bashful about coming back here too often, feel free to contact me directly at
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm retired, and FMP is my hobby, so I love doing this kind of thing.




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