oh got it.thanks for the reply.

On Jan 19, 2008 7:40 PM, Fernando Gont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 04:22 a.m. 19/01/2008, crazy frog crazy frog wrote:
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> That means the client should send its SYN before it receives the
> server's SYN, and viceversa. That is, both SYNs should be sent almost
> simultaneously. And this is unlikely.
>
> Kind regards,
> Fernando
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> >nice discussion but what u mean by "Secondly, both SYNs should "cross
> >in the network". This is unlikely."
> >i mean its not cars on the road which will collide on network.those
> >two are different SYN so will it affect the network?
> >
> >On Jan 18, 2008 12:39 PM, Fernando Gont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > At 07:55 p.m. 17/01/2008, you wrote:
> > >
> > > >TCP specification (rfc 793) mentions about a simultaneous open and
> > > >it's use in distributed set ups.
> > > >In this case the handshake would proceed as follows:
> > > >
> > > >C -> S (Syn) .. 1
> > > >S -> C (Syn) .. 2
> > > >(1 and 2 happends almost simultaneously)
> > > >C -> S (Syn|Ack)
> > > >S -> C (Syn|Ack)
> > > >
> > > >My question is do we see this behavior in the practical world ?
> > >
> > > No, it is not.
> > >
> > > Firstly, usually only clients perform an active open of a connection
> > > (i.e., send a "SYN").  This has to do with the Client/Server model.
> > > Therefore, you won't see a SYN coming from the server.
> > >
> > > Secondly, both SYNs should "cross in the network". This is unlikely.
> > >
> > > Thirdly, in order for a simultaneous open to take place, not only
> > > should both systems send SYNs that cross each other in the network,
> > > but the client's source port should match the server's destination
> > > port, and the client's destination port should match the server's
> > > source port. This usually unlikely.
> > >
> > > Kind regards,
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