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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Laura A. Robinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 12:43 PM
> To: 'Dubber, Drew B'; Derick Anderson; focus-ms@securityfocus.com
> Subject: RE: Renaming Administrator account
> 
> Yes. 
> 
> Therefore, if you have your DCs in a secure site and still 
> allow TS access to them, then you don't really have them in a 
> secure site, at least as it pertains to locking out the 
> Administrator account. This is why Win2K3 allows you to just 
> disable the darned thing altogether. It's a lot easier than 
> going through all the bending and twisting required to make 
> your Administrator account actually "lockout-able". I made 
> that word up. :-)

Surely you can remove the Administrator/Administrators group from TS
access using Group Policy? It's standard practice on Linux machines to
disable root login for SSH, the same principle would apply here I
suppose. I ask because while we don't allow Administrator VPN access (or
OWA for that matter), we do allow it for Terminal Services. TS isn't
available from the Internet though - I don't care what its service
record has been, there's not a chance that port is getting opened up.

I can understand why someone might want to be able to lock out the
administrator account, but isn't it a potential DoS if I can lock out
EVERY account in the domain? How (besides a restart in DSR mode) could
control be regained of the system? Personally I'm glad Administrator
can't get locked out - I'm sure someone would have done it already.

> By the way, if you copy the Administrator account, the copied 
> account *is* subject to account lockout policies.
> 
> Laura 
> 

Which would make it subject to our rather severe 5-attempt lockout
policy, enacted as the result of a SAS70 audit for the overly curious.
With a couple sys admins and a very complex password, it wouldn't be too
long before someone hit the limit (which is cleared once a day). I
suppose the answer will be, "It depends on your particular situation..."
=)

Derick Anderson

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