For me, the squeak environment - image - is not problem; but the performance
is my main obstacle to use it for main development. If squeak can show more 
than 90%
of performance of C in every case(this is important part, for some limited area 
it might
already performant), for me, squeak is best choice. I hope PEPSI/COLA/etc could 
help
me to solve this problem - performance, raw performance. Without this, I think 
that
the language or development environment cannot be universal tool like C. (Yes, 
I know
human productivity/performance is more valuable but productive, performant and 
fast 
language is better than productive one with moderate speed, isn't it?) 

----- Original Message -----
   From: "Steven H. Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   To: Waldemar Kornewald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   Cc: VPRI Fonc <[email protected]>
   Sent: 07-11-21 21:53:02
   Subject: Re: Re: [fonc] productivity

  Waldemar Kornewald wrote:
>
> There are more of such projects? I haven't found anything as serious
> as this one.
>   
This is perhaps the most public and ambitious project, with it's goal of 
a complete system in 20K(?) lines of code, but Paul Graham's arc is 
similarly motivated.  The PyPy project is similar in it's intent to 
specify the Python language core in a high level subset of Python.  
Squeak does this too, though I find Smalltalk syntax and image based 
environment hard to embrace for development.

# Steve

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