On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 11:28 AM, John Zabroski <johnzabro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> JavaScript also doesn't support true delegation, as in the Actors Model of
> computation.
>
> Also, Sencha Ext Designer is an abomination.  It is a fundamental
> misunderstanding of the Web and how to glue together chunks of text via
> "hyperlinks".  It is the same story for any number of technologies that
> claim to "fix" the Web, including GWT... they are all not quite up to par,
> at least by my standards.
>
> The fundamental problem with the Web is the Browser.  This is the monsterous
> bug.
>
> The fundamental problem with Sencha Ext is that the quality of the code
> isn't that great (many JavaScript programmers compound the flaws of the
> Browser by not understanding how to effectively program against the Browser
> model), and it also misunderstands distributed computing.  It encourages
> writing applications as if they were still single-tier IBM computers from
> the 1970s/80s costing thousands of dollars.
>
> Why are we stuck with such poor architecture?
>

Apologies if you have posted this before, but have you talked anywhere
in more detail about what the "monsterous bug" is (specifically), or
how programming for the web misunderstands distributed computing?

-- Dirk

> Cheers,
> Z-Bo
>
> On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Waldemar Kornewald <wkornew...@freenet.de>
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> > I am wondering if there is some value in reviving the idea for
>> > JavaScript?
>> >
>> > Firebug shows what is possible as a sort of computing microscope for
>> > JavaScript and HTML and CSS. Sencha Ext Designer shows what is possible
>> > as
>> > far as interactive GUI design.
>>
>> What exactly does JavaScript give you that you don't get with Python?
>>
>> If you want to have prototypes then JavaScript is probably the worst
>> language you can pick. You can't specify multiple delegates and you
>> can't change the delegates at runtime (unless your browser supports
>> __proto__, but even then you can only have one delegate). Also, as a
>> language JavaScript is just not as powerful as Python. If all you want
>> is a prototypes implementation that doesn't require modifications to
>> the interpreter then you can get that with Python, too (*without*
>> JavaScript's delegation limitations).
>>
>> Bye,
>> Waldemar
>>
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