Design systems that are more efficient than life? More efficient in what ways, for what purposes? For the purposes of computing? Can we define what computing should become? We are only touching the hem of the garment, I think. ;-)
-Carl From: fonc-boun...@vpri.org [mailto:fonc-boun...@vpri.org] On Behalf Of David Barbour Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 12:05 AM To: Fundamentals of New Computing Subject: Re: [fonc] Final STEP progress report abandoned? Life is, in some ways, less "messy" than binary. At least less fragile. DNA cannot encode absolute offsets, for example. Closer to associative memory. In any case, we want to reach useful solutions quickly. Life doesn't evolve at a scale commensurate with human patience, despite having vastly more parallelism and memory. So we need to design systems more efficient, and perhaps more specialized, than life. On Sep 4, 2013 5:37 PM, "Casey Ransberger" <casey.obrie...@gmail.com> wrote: John, you're right. I have seen raw binary used as DNA and I left that out. This could be my own prejudice, but it seems like a messy way to do things. I suppose I want to limit what the animal can do by constraining it to some set of "safe" primitives. Maybe that's a silly thing to worry about, though. If we're going to grow software, I suppose maybe I should expect the process to be as messy as life is:) On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 4:06 PM, John Carlson <yottz...@gmail.com> wrote: I meant to say you could perform and record operations while the program was running. I think people have missed machine language as "syntaxless." On Sep 4, 2013 4:17 PM, "John Carlson" <yottz...@gmail.com> wrote: On Sep 3, 2013 8:25 PM, "Casey Ransberger" <casey.obrie...@gmail.com> wrote: > It yields a kind of "syntaxlessness" that's interesting. Our TWB/TE language was mostly syntaxless. Instead, you performed operations on desktop objects that were recorded (like AppleScript, but with an iconic language). You could even record while the program was running. We had a tiny bit of syntax in our predicates, stuff like range and set notation. Can anyone describe Minecraft's syntax and semantics? _______________________________________________ fonc mailing list fonc@vpri.org http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc -- CALIFORNIA H U M A N _______________________________________________ fonc mailing list fonc@vpri.org http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc
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